Jolly Roger flag - from 1982 to present day

[Marcantilan]

Hello all,

I´m putting together an article about the usage of the Jolly Roger flag, from the South Atlantic War to this day.

Already, I have.


HMS Conqueror from the South Atlantic War - 1 kill mark (C-4) & 1 dagger for special ops near islands capital.



HMS Onyx also from South Atlantic War - 1 dagger for special ops near the islands capital.


HMS Sealion, from South Atlantic deployment (1987) - 2 daggers for special ops disembark & embark, Argentine mainland.


HMS Opossum, from Gulf War 1 (1991) - Just the Jolly Roger (some press speculated about special ops, Irak mainland)








HMS Otus, from Gulf War 1 (1991) - Just the Jolly Roger (some press speculated about special ops, Irak mainland)




HMS Splendid, from Kosovo (1999) - Hammer and stars for Tomahawk bombing mission.

(No pic)
HMS Trafalgar & HMS Superb, returning from Red Sea (December 2001), after Tomahawk bombing mission to Kabul.


HMS Turbulent, returning from Gulf War 2, after Tomahawk bombing to Bagdad.

My question is, I missed any Jolly Roger use &, anyone have better pics to share?

Thanks a lot!
Mariano

PS: Already posted in Submariners Association (UK) forum, but I think could be useful here (for my article and interesting to discuss here)

[Jimbuna]

A closer one of Conqueror

[Takeda Shingen]

Cool shots, guys!

[TLAM Strike]

Zeeleeuw (2) flying a Jolly Roger, during an exercise somewhere off the U.K. SSE. coast, in order to provoke a British frigate. Sometime between 1 and 4 Oct 2001. (Photo: © Hr.Ms. Zeeleeuw website).

another photo of Conquer:


USS Ohio, reason unknown (probably just fooling around...)

[Platapus]

Are you going to just collect imagery off of the Internet Tubes or will you also be going into the history of why and how this flag was used.

I think that would be interesting to read.

[Matador.es]

@Platapus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolly_Roger#By_submarines

@Marcantilan
Just for the record on the photos. The current "Gulf War' is the third, not the second. The second Gulf War is the '91 outbreak.

The first gulf war was from sept. 1980 till aug. 1988. It was this war in which the US supplied Iran with F-14 TomCats, Stingers, and all other sorts of weapons what, nowadays is the most inconvenient thing ever happened since most of the weapons are still in use by the US..... also in case of an intervention with Iran. Though this should not be any argument to leave it out of the Gulf war "counting".

But sure nice photos!

[Penguin]

Wow, interesting! Didn't know the use of the Jolly Roger by british subs untill now, so I can't contribute anything, but looking forward to the article!

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Penguin

Wow, interesting! Didn't know the use of the Jolly Roger by british subs untill now, so I can't contribute anything, but looking forward to the article!

There are a great many more if you go back to the WWII era but the OP dateline is 1982 onwards.

[Raptor1]

Originally Posted by Matador.es

@Platapus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolly_Roger#By_submarines

@Marcantilan
Just for the record on the photos. The current "Gulf War' is the third, not the second. The second Gulf War is the '91 outbreak.

The first gulf war was from sept. 1980 till aug. 1988. It was this war in which the US supplied Iran with F-14 TomCats, Stingers, and all other sorts of weapons what, nowadays is the most inconvenient thing ever happened since most of the weapons are still in use by the US..... also in case of an intervention with Iran. Though this should not be any argument to leave it out of the Gulf war "counting".

But sure nice photos!

The most commonly accepted names for these wars (At least in English) are the Iran-Iraq War, Gulf War and Iraq War respectively.

Also, the US did not supply Iran with weaponry during the Iran-Iraq War, IIRC it in fact supplied Iraq rather extensively. Iran did have US-made weapons which it acquired before the revolution, but the lack of ability to get replacement parts for them was a major problem for the Iranian military.

[Matador.es]

Originally Posted by Raptor1

Also, the US did not supply Iran with weaponry during the Iran-Iraq War, IIRC it in fact supplied Iraq rather extensively. Iran did have US-made weapons which it acquired before the revolution, but the lack of ability to get replacement parts for them was a major problem for the Iranian military.

You do make a point that Iran was not supplied during the war, 4 till 2 years before the war.

About the parts for maintenance:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16648850...news-military/

But there is no reason to worry, the russians have supplied iran with subs that are good enough to hoist a jolly roger for a carrier hit before the only two countries in the world who have F-14's can use them in combat.

Aircraft carriers seem to become obsolete lately….

[heartc]

What Raptor said, with regards to the nomenclature at least (beat me to it).

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Marcantilan

HMS Sealion, from South Atlantic deployment (1987) - 2 daggers for special ops disembark & embark, Argentine mainland.

1987? Could someone fill me in on this operation?

[Marcantilan]

Thanks all for the answers!!!

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

1987? Could someone fill me in on this operation?

No details available.

However, during the 80´s Argentina and Britain played a mini-cold war in the South Atlantic, including Psyops, EW, air intercepts, intelligence gathering ops and you name it.

For example, Argentine Air Force carried various missions to test RAF response times and radar coverage. In response, RAF Phantoms and latter Tornados intercepted dozens of Argentine flights.

Same happened underwater, as usual...