Why have 2 periscopes?

Tinman764 · 12-27-10, 08:44 PM

Not really a SH3 question, but someone might know. What was the point of separate observation and attack periscopes? Not only does it use space in already cramped conditions and valuable resources to make and fit, but it seems that except for a difference in magnification power they both do the same job.

Sailor Steve · 12-27-10, 08:49 PM

The observation periscope has a large head, which lets in a lot of light and is able to see further, as well as crank up to nearly 90 degrees to watch for aircraft. The bad part is that head is easy to sea, and leaves a large wake behind it which makes it even easier to spot.

The attack periscope is much more limited, but has a much smaller head, which makes it harder to see when the actual attack is being conducted.

Also, redundancy is always a good thing.

Tinman764 · 12-27-10, 08:53 PM

I see, thanks for the answer

GoldenRivet · 12-27-10, 11:36 PM

is this concept of easier for them to see or harder for them to see simulated in GWX?

seems like i should know that

Sailor Steve · 12-28-10, 12:52 AM

I don't think SH3 allows for that.

On the other hand, this is the first subsim to actually have both periscopes, so it's a start.

4saken · 12-28-10, 02:30 AM

I always use the attack periscope because of the x10...You are actually saying that with the observation periscope you can see further?

JJOM · 12-29-10, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

The observation periscope has a large head, which lets in a lot of light and is able to see further, as well as crank up to nearly 90 degrees to watch for aircraft. The bad part is that head is easy to sea, and leaves a large wake behind it which makes it even easier to spot.

The attack periscope is much more limited, but has a much smaller head, which makes it harder to see when the actual attack is being conducted.

Also, redundancy is always a good thing.

Thanks for the clarification. I thought it was the opposite, periscope observation was more "discreet".

Greets,

FIREWALL · 12-29-10, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

my understanding as well

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Originally Posted by Missing Name

I found that ahead slow is your best bet. Not only would the periscope be unusable in real life, but the wake would be very visible at speeds above that.

Plus, going above ahead slow underwater is a good way for an escort to home in on your position.

I'd like to see a mod that would make it unusable above 5 knots.

Delareon · 12-29-10, 05:01 AM

try h.sie's Realistic Repair and Flooding Times Mod.
It makes the Persicope useless above 4 knots and many other nice things.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=174225

btw. can anyone provide me with screenshots or the discussion thread for hitmans optics?
Cant find it in the mod section, want to take a look at it before i install it.

Tinman764 · 12-29-10, 08:39 AM

That Repair and flooding times mod looks awesome, anyone know if it plays nice with GWX3?

12-27-10, 08:44 PM	#1
Tinman764 Chief Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: U-32's Wintergarten Posts: 325 Downloads: 182 Uploads: 0	Why have 2 periscopes? Not really a SH3 question, but someone might know. What was the point of separate observation and attack periscopes? Not only does it use space in already cramped conditions and valuable resources to make and fit, but it seems that except for a difference in magnification power they both do the same job.

12-27-10, 08:49 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	The observation periscope has a large head, which lets in a lot of light and is able to see further, as well as crank up to nearly 90 degrees to watch for aircraft. The bad part is that head is easy to sea, and leaves a large wake behind it which makes it even easier to spot. The attack periscope is much more limited, but has a much smaller head, which makes it harder to see when the actual attack is being conducted. Also, redundancy is always a good thing. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-27-10, 11:36 PM	#4
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	is this concept of easier for them to see or harder for them to see simulated in GWX? seems like i should know that __________________

12-28-10, 12:52 AM	#5
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I don't think SH3 allows for that. On the other hand, this is the first subsim to actually have both periscopes, so it's a start. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-27-10, 08:53 PM	#3
Tinman764 Chief Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: U-32's Wintergarten Posts: 325 Downloads: 182 Uploads: 0	I see, thanks for the answer

12-28-10, 02:30 AM	#6
4saken Mate Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Korfu, Ionisches Meer Posts: 59 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I always use the attack periscope because of the x10...You are actually saying that with the observation periscope you can see further?

12-29-10, 05:01 AM	#9
Delareon Planesman Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 192 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	try h.sie's Realistic Repair and Flooding Times Mod. It makes the Persicope useless above 4 knots and many other nice things. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=174225 btw. can anyone provide me with screenshots or the discussion thread for hitmans optics? Cant find it in the mod section, want to take a look at it before i install it.

12-29-10, 08:39 AM	#10
Tinman764 Chief Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: U-32's Wintergarten Posts: 325 Downloads: 182 Uploads: 0	That Repair and flooding times mod looks awesome, anyone know if it plays nice with GWX3?