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Old 09-20-10, 05:42 PM   #1
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Default I think Uboat.net is wrong.. (food conversation)

I was curious about the food carried on the u-boats and was doing some reading..
Uboat.net has this article

http://www.uboat.net/men/foodstuffs.htm

If you add up the numbers thats almost 14 tons of food.. For something like 60 men..

I thought it was a little high and then looked at MODERN subs, with 100+ men.. They only have about 7 tons of food..

I cannot believe that 60 men would need 14 tons of food for 10 or so weeks, while a modern nuclear sub goes for 4 months with double the men and half of the food..

It makes me wonder how many things are really off when it comes to the facts of history..

Like the book "Iron Coffins"
Everyone here says take it with a grain of salt, that most was made up.. I was expecting people to complain about things like Werner constantly going to 280-290+ meters DAILY in a Type 7 uboat, yet people complain about stories being someone elses..

In any case.....
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Old 09-20-10, 05:52 PM   #2
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11915 kg, if I'm not wrong - 12 tons.

I don't know if these numbers are correct.

BUT: today technologies of food preservation are much more developed. We crio-treat food, make powder edible after adding water and such miracles, that were rather not widely used during WW2. I think it is quite possible that their food was heavier - held in cans (thicker than ours), wet (preserved in varous kinds of fluids rather than by drying/vacuuming).

Also note that they needed to carry fresh water supply for whole their trip (sic!), while modern subs just "make" fresh water. Thist must have weighted additional tons.
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Old 09-20-10, 06:00 PM   #3
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11915 kg, if I'm not wrong - 12 tons.

I don't know if these numbers are correct.

BUT: today technologies of food preservation are much more developed. We crio-treat food, make powder edible after adding water and such miracles, that were rather not widely used during WW2. I think it is quite possible that their food was heavier - held in cans (thicker than ours), wet (preserved in varous kinds of fluids rather than by drying/vacuuming).

Also note that they needed to carry fresh water supply for whole their trip (sic!), while modern subs just "make" fresh water. Thist must have weighted additional tons.

WEll Water was not included in the weight that u-boat.net states..

It does mention that there is canned food.. But still. I just cannot believe they had that much for only 10 weeks.. that comes out to about 5-6lbs of food per person, every day.. 5 pounds a food?? Thats a lot! lol
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WEll Water was not included in the weight that u-boat.net states..

It does mention that there is canned food.. But still. I just cannot believe they had that much for only 10 weeks.. that comes out to about 5-6lbs of food per person, every day.. 5 pounds a food?? Thats a lot! lol
Let's try to count it, very roughly of course - 1 day per 1 man:
- 1 loaf of bread: 80 dag,
- a piece of meat: 5 dag,
- a plate of potatoes: 60 dag,
- 2 glasses of milk: 50 dag
Looks like a minimum, weights total 195 dag = 1.95 kg = 4.3 lbs. Not so far from 5 pounds.
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Old 09-20-10, 06:24 PM   #5
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Being pretty active myself?
I can put down a Wendy's triple cheese, dragged through the garden,
a double cheese same way, the largest fries they have and a large drink, just for lunch.
(I don't eat breakfast)

I snack all day on anything that don't bite me first.

Dinner for me can feed at lest 2 people for a day!

Then snacks till bed time.

So 5 or 6 lbs of food a day for active servicemen,
under stress, is not unusual.

And I only tip the scales at 155 lbs.

(168 lbs when I was in the 82nd AirBorne)
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Old 09-20-10, 06:58 PM   #6
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Being pretty active myself?
I can put down a Wendy's triple cheese, dragged through the garden,
a double cheese same way, the largest fries they have and a large drink, just for lunch.
(I don't eat breakfast)

I snack all day on anything that don't bite me first.

Dinner for me can feed at lest 2 people for a day!

Then snacks till bed time.

So 5 or 6 lbs of food a day for active servicemen,
under stress, is not unusual.

And I only tip the scales at 155 lbs.

(168 lbs when I was in the 82nd AirBorne)
ACtive?? thats just the thing.. Everything I read about these guys, is 90% of the time, it was complete bordum..
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Old 09-20-10, 07:11 PM   #7
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privateer, you "All-American" then

A friend of mine was in AFSOC
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