Ship Names Question

Sailor Steve · 07-05-10, 01:24 PM

Way back in '06 when I first started planning the Ship Names mod for SH3 Commander, I also started organizing and cataloging Japanese names for SH4. Since JSCones has hinted that he might make it possible to do the same for SH4 I've decided to start making some plans. So I have some questions.

1. Does SH4 already give names? Dan told me it did when we talked in Houston two years ago. I've looked at the Roster files and I'm wondering if I have to wait for Jaesen to come up with something. I see that the warships mostly have names in the files, and I would like to know if anybody who has sunk some noticed whether they recieved names or not.

2. It is my understanding that it is a lot easier on the loading times to add ships in SH4. Is this true? I see various countries in the Rosters of SH4. Does adding new ships happen the same way it does in SH3, i.e. you must clone a model for each nation you want to add a ship to, or will putting the names in, say, Estonia's roster make it so only an Estonian ship will recieve that name?

If I've been unclear about anything please tell me, as I really want to get moving on this if it's at all possible.

iambecomelife · 07-05-10, 01:59 PM

1. SH4 does not give names. Like SH3, the names included in the cfg files are not utilized.

2. Loading times for SH4's museum are much shorter than SH3. Even better, no model cloning is necessary - you can allocate a unique paint scheme based on nationality and even time period. i am not 100% sure, but I think you can also assign names based on nationality, so that Generic Tanker X is named "Esso Mudville" on the US roster and "Nishizawa Maru" on the Japanese roster.

If you can allocate names based on time period, that would create some interesting possibilities - names could be struck on the date that the real vessel was lost.

I will be reinstalling SH4 to test some subs for my WWI mod, so I will let you know for sure in a day or two about ship names.

Sailor Steve · 07-05-10, 03:50 PM

I should have realized you would alread have looked at all this!

Thanks for the answers. Too bad about the .cfg files. I was hoping that maybe... All I can do now is hope Jaesen actually gets the time and inclination to look at it.

I see that several of your ships have already been partially ported into SH4. I say "partially" because I don't think they have the sailors walking around the decks. Do they?

Royale-Adio · 07-16-10, 01:38 PM

Adding names to sunk ships would be just great! Is there really no way at all?

Sailor Steve · 07-16-10, 02:34 PM

Not unless somebody writes a program to do it, a la SH3 Commander.

I've been told that SH5 does it and does it well, but I can't look into it yet. Also, I'd like to do names for both sides of SH4, so the American skippers could see which ships they sank too.

aergistal · 07-16-10, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Not unless somebody writes a program to do it, a la SH3 Commander.

Hey Steve. I could help, if you want... I just need some feedback from people who tried this before since I can't run SH4 until I'm back home. But I can code.

Editing the captain's log (SaveData.clg) text entries would get the text into the game, right? If yes, it's all about mapping real names to ship classes. Not sure about nationality info though and where this gets stored, if it gets stored at all.

07-05-10, 01:24 PM	#1
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Ship Names Question Way back in '06 when I first started planning the Ship Names mod for SH3 Commander, I also started organizing and cataloging Japanese names for SH4. Since JSCones has hinted that he might make it possible to do the same for SH4 I've decided to start making some plans. So I have some questions. 1. Does SH4 already give names? Dan told me it did when we talked in Houston two years ago. I've looked at the Roster files and I'm wondering if I have to wait for Jaesen to come up with something. I see that the warships mostly have names in the files, and I would like to know if anybody who has sunk some noticed whether they recieved names or not. 2. It is my understanding that it is a lot easier on the loading times to add ships in SH4. Is this true? I see various countries in the Rosters of SH4. Does adding new ships happen the same way it does in SH3, i.e. you must clone a model for each nation you want to add a ship to, or will putting the names in, say, Estonia's roster make it so only an Estonian ship will recieve that name? If I've been unclear about anything please tell me, as I really want to get moving on this if it's at all possible. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-05-10, 01:59 PM	#2
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,709 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	1. SH4 does not give names. Like SH3, the names included in the cfg files are not utilized. 2. Loading times for SH4's museum are much shorter than SH3. Even better, no model cloning is necessary - you can allocate a unique paint scheme based on nationality and even time period. i am not 100% sure, but I think you can also assign names based on nationality, so that Generic Tanker X is named "Esso Mudville" on the US roster and "Nishizawa Maru" on the Japanese roster. If you can allocate names based on time period, that would create some interesting possibilities - names could be struck on the date that the real vessel was lost. I will be reinstalling SH4 to test some subs for my WWI mod, so I will let you know for sure in a day or two about ship names. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

07-05-10, 03:50 PM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I should have realized you would alread have looked at all this! Thanks for the answers. Too bad about the .cfg files. I was hoping that maybe... All I can do now is hope Jaesen actually gets the time and inclination to look at it. I see that several of your ships have already been partially ported into SH4. I say "partially" because I don't think they have the sailors walking around the decks. Do they? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-16-10, 01:38 PM	#4
Royale-Adio Officer Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 238 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 5	Adding names to sunk ships would be just great! Is there really no way at all? __________________ Lurking In The Dark...

07-16-10, 02:34 PM	#5
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Not unless somebody writes a program to do it, a la SH3 Commander. I've been told that SH5 does it and does it well, but I can't look into it yet. Also, I'd like to do names for both sides of SH4, so the American skippers could see which ships they sank too. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo