Stopping damage on the ocean floor.

Armistead · 06-20-10, 08:26 AM

Sad we can't sit on the ocean floor without taking damage. Many skippers sat on the floor. Sometimes when I get damaged I seek shallow water to not go in a dive to the depths and sit there. At 0 knots you get some time before damage.

I've looked for files, just seems it would be a easy fix to stop the ground damage so we could sit on the ocean floor. Anyone?

Brenjen · 06-20-10, 09:44 AM

I was lamenting that very thing last night while testing my install of RFB 2.0 after I gun fought a patrol boat & submerged in a couple hundred feet of water & settled on the bottom. Instead of fixing the damaged bulkheads the ocean floor completed their destruction & the flooding was 100% in a few minutes.

It's not that I'm unaware of the fact that the sub was probably done for anyway, & even with the ability to sit on the bottom & work, not all the needed repairs can be made; it'd still be nice to be able to sit on the bottom & affect those repairs that could.

Harmsway! · 06-20-10, 11:20 AM

Someone in these forums stated that you can safely sit on the bottom if you set your depth below sea bottom. That way the sub doesn't bob up and down with continual slamming. I tried this once and it didn't work. It could be because I had lost depth control and was incapable of securing the bottom with this technique. I shall try it again sometime.

Harmsway! · 06-20-10, 11:34 AM

Okay I tried this again with a good sub and it worked. Come to a few feet from the bottom and wait for the sub to go adrift. Full stop no forward motion. Do not command a dive just set the depth meter a bit below bottom. My sub set down nice and easy without a sound. Can I do this more then once. I don't know.

Edit: An after thought. This was with basic install SH4 1.5. I have a RFB install too, I haven't tried this with that yet.

keltos01 · 06-20-10, 02:20 PM

other than that observer made a custom zone with high armor that protected the keel of the boats, have to add that to the zones.cfg with notepad and to the boat.zon file using s3d.

It was included in his damage mod at kikinback I think

k

06-20-10, 03:42 PM

one thing to remember is some mods in an attempt to get more realism will change how easy the sub hulls get damaged so things you can do with stock subs arent doable wih subs if you are using a mod that changes the subs damage model.

in a stock sub slow to zero very near the bottom then slowly increase depth until you touch bottom then make your depth at least 25 meters below that and your sub will sit motionless on bottom without getting more damage by rocking around.

there is always give and take with modding and some mods will change things in an attempt at getting subs to take the correct amount of damage from depth charges and this also effects how the sub gets damaged from sitting on the bottom or getting fired upon at the surface so it is very possible that sitting on the bottom cant be done while using those mods

06-20-10, 08:26 AM	#1
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Stopping damage on the ocean floor. Sad we can't sit on the ocean floor without taking damage. Many skippers sat on the floor. Sometimes when I get damaged I seek shallow water to not go in a dive to the depths and sit there. At 0 knots you get some time before damage. I've looked for files, just seems it would be a easy fix to stop the ground damage so we could sit on the ocean floor. Anyone?

06-20-10, 09:44 AM	#2
Brenjen Machinist's Mate Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: I live in The U.S. South Posts: 127 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	I was lamenting that very thing last night while testing my install of RFB 2.0 after I gun fought a patrol boat & submerged in a couple hundred feet of water & settled on the bottom. Instead of fixing the damaged bulkheads the ocean floor completed their destruction & the flooding was 100% in a few minutes. It's not that I'm unaware of the fact that the sub was probably done for anyway, & even with the ability to sit on the bottom & work, not all the needed repairs can be made; it'd still be nice to be able to sit on the bottom & affect those repairs that could. __________________ “Mankind are governed more by their feelings than by reason" - Samuel Adams, American patriot

06-20-10, 11:34 AM	#4
Harmsway! XO Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 400 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	Okay I tried this again with a good sub and it worked. Come to a few feet from the bottom and wait for the sub to go adrift. Full stop no forward motion. Do not command a dive just set the depth meter a bit below bottom. My sub set down nice and easy without a sound. Can I do this more then once. I don't know. Edit: An after thought. This was with basic install SH4 1.5. I have a RFB install too, I haven't tried this with that yet. Last edited by Harmsway!; 06-20-10 at 02:04 PM.

06-20-10, 02:20 PM	#5
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	other than that observer made a custom zone with high armor that protected the keel of the boats, have to add that to the zones.cfg with notepad and to the boat.zon file using s3d. It was included in his damage mod at kikinback I think k __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

06-20-10, 11:20 AM	#3
Harmsway! XO Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 400 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	Someone in these forums stated that you can safely sit on the bottom if you set your depth below sea bottom. That way the sub doesn't bob up and down with continual slamming. I tried this once and it didn't work. It could be because I had lost depth control and was incapable of securing the bottom with this technique. I shall try it again sometime.

06-20-10, 03:42 PM	#6
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	one thing to remember is some mods in an attempt to get more realism will change how easy the sub hulls get damaged so things you can do with stock subs arent doable wih subs if you are using a mod that changes the subs damage model. in a stock sub slow to zero very near the bottom then slowly increase depth until you touch bottom then make your depth at least 25 meters below that and your sub will sit motionless on bottom without getting more damage by rocking around. there is always give and take with modding and some mods will change things in an attempt at getting subs to take the correct amount of damage from depth charges and this also effects how the sub gets damaged from sitting on the bottom or getting fired upon at the surface so it is very possible that sitting on the bottom cant be done while using those mods