Just when I think I've got this all figured out...

fred8615 · 05-24-10, 08:02 AM

...I can't get time triggers to work!

It refuses to do anything it's supposed to if a time trigger is involved. Every other type of trigger works fine.

I did do a search here and saw where it was reported that it doesn't work with multiplayer missions. I double checked my parameters and all that's checked is "Single Player" so it shouldn't be that.

I'm trying to update objectives and send a message on a specific date and time. Any ideas?

peabody · 05-24-10, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by fred8615

...I can't get time triggers to work!

It refuses to do anything it's supposed to if a time trigger is involved. Every other type of trigger works fine.

I did do a search here and saw where it was reported that it doesn't work with multiplayer missions. I double checked my parameters and all that's checked is "Single Player" so it shouldn't be that.

I'm trying to update objectives and send a message on a specific date and time. Any ideas?

It hard to say without seeing what you have done. Did you check all the start dates? Did you change the start date of the mission AFTER you set the time trigger? That will cause the time trigger to change.
Time trigger do work. But they don't happen at the EXACT minute of the time trigger. Usually within a few minutes, maybe as much as 5 minutes late.
If you have somewhere you could post it, I could take a look at it.

Peabody

fred8615 · 05-24-10, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by peabody

It hard to say without seeing what you have done. Did you check all the start dates?

Checked, re-checked, double checked, triple checked. I'm using the default start of 1940-1-1 anyway.

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Did you change the start date of the mission AFTER you set the time trigger? That will cause the time trigger to change.

Not in in the first half dozen times I tried them. I did try using a start date of 1941-2-1 to see if that would help, noted the changed date in the trigger, and fixed it back, but still nothing. I even tried starting all over again from scratch, and that didn't work.

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Time trigger do work. But they don't happen at the EXACT minute of the time trigger. Usually within a few minutes, maybe as much as 5 minutes late.

I waited days (using time compression) and the message never showed.

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If you have somewhere you could post it, I could take a look at it.

PM me your e-mail address and I can send it as an attachment. It's in a JSGME mod so it won't require messing up your install or anything.

peabody · 05-24-10, 04:14 PM

Fred,

Got your mission, you can relax, your time trigger works fine. The problem is Time triggers, at least from what I know are hard to use in Campaigns. Simple reason, you don't know when they are going to send you on the mission.

Time trigger do not use the actual date you enter, they use the difference between the mission start date and the time trigger date. So when the mission start changes the times trigger "time" changes.

Here is the time trigger in your mission.

[Trigger 1]
TrigName=Find and Engage
Type=1
Time=1017210

Time= 1.9+ years !!

The mission was written with a start date of 1940-1-1 and the trigger is set for 1941-12-7. BUT when the mission starts Dec 1, 1941 or Dec 2 the time trigger moves ahead 1.9+ years.
I changed the mission start date but because of when they started me, the message did not arrive until Dec 8, by that time the Task Force is gone.

I just ran it again and it started me on Dec 2 at 1400 hrs. That makes the message 38 hours late.

The message.txt file did give a message in the "message box" stating that Pearl was attacked, unfortunately the message on the clipboard was "message content". So there must be a mistake in that file. It's the stock file.

A possible solution is to give a message when they arrive at their Patrol zone of opening sealed orders and intelligence suspects the Japanese may attack. Negotiations are not going well, partol the area blah.....blah....blah.... rather then try to get a time trigger to work. Unless someone else knows something I don't about them. Also suggest making the area bigger.

Anyway, it was not a mistake on your part, the message trigger works fine, you just had to wait 2 years to get it.

Peabody

fred8615 · 05-24-10, 05:27 PM

Well that blows!

The other two patrols I wanted to use a time trigger in I can get around not having it. But this one really needed it. Oh well, can't have everything I guess.

BTW, that empty PH attack message you got is a bug in the stock messages.txt. There's mods out there that fix it.

Thanks again for all your help.

fred8615 · 05-25-10, 01:01 PM

I got it!

I got it!

I got it!

It turns the start date for the mission in the PatrolObjectives.cfg has an influence. Also, the start dates in both it and the mission need to be when the patrol actually starts. In the case of what I'm doing, it's always Dec. 2nd. For some reason the message is 14 hours later than the time set, but that can be dealt with by subtracting those hours from the time you want it to display. Otherwise, it works perfectly!

05-24-10, 08:02 AM	#1
fred8615 Saint of the seas Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sorrento, Louisiana Posts: 1,320 Downloads: 265 Uploads: 127	Just when I think I've got this all figured out... ...I can't get time triggers to work! It refuses to do anything it's supposed to if a time trigger is involved. Every other type of trigger works fine. I did do a search here and saw where it was reported that it doesn't work with multiplayer missions. I double checked my parameters and all that's checked is "Single Player" so it shouldn't be that. I'm trying to update objectives and send a message on a specific date and time. Any ideas? __________________ Frederick J. Barnett Radio Stations & Music Captain's Desk Photos FJB Camera Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start Office links, Info Boxes, & 50 cal Crew Rank Fix Sub Class Info Real Subs SH4 Randomizer Sub Images Office Images Sub Pinups & Pics 24 Hour Clocks Office Posters Nav Map Make-Over Add-ons FJB Navigation Maps Office Window Chronographs Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done! Do you think that's easy?! - Gregory Peck, The Guns of Navarone. Last edited by fred8615; 05-24-10 at 10:46 AM.

05-24-10, 04:14 PM	#4
peabody Admiral Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York State, USA Posts: 2,390 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 7	Fred, Got your mission, you can relax, your time trigger works fine. The problem is Time triggers, at least from what I know are hard to use in Campaigns. Simple reason, you don't know when they are going to send you on the mission. Time trigger do not use the actual date you enter, they use the difference between the mission start date and the time trigger date. So when the mission start changes the times trigger "time" changes. Here is the time trigger in your mission. [Trigger 1] TrigName=Find and Engage Type=1 Time=1017210 Time= 1.9+ years !! The mission was written with a start date of 1940-1-1 and the trigger is set for 1941-12-7. BUT when the mission starts Dec 1, 1941 or Dec 2 the time trigger moves ahead 1.9+ years. I changed the mission start date but because of when they started me, the message did not arrive until Dec 8, by that time the Task Force is gone. I just ran it again and it started me on Dec 2 at 1400 hrs. That makes the message 38 hours late. The message.txt file did give a message in the "message box" stating that Pearl was attacked, unfortunately the message on the clipboard was "message content". So there must be a mistake in that file. It's the stock file. A possible solution is to give a message when they arrive at their Patrol zone of opening sealed orders and intelligence suspects the Japanese may attack. Negotiations are not going well, partol the area blah.....blah....blah.... rather then try to get a time trigger to work. Unless someone else knows something I don't about them. Also suggest making the area bigger. Anyway, it was not a mistake on your part, the message trigger works fine, you just had to wait 2 years to get it. Peabody __________________ System Spec: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, PentiumD Dual Core Presler 945 3.4Ghz, Gigabyte Geforce 7600GS, 2-1GB Corsair XMS2 800Mhz in Dual Channel, 2-WD 250 SATA 3Gb/s, Onboard Realtek HD 7.1 Audio, DVD ROM, DVD burner, Hiper 580 Watt Power supply, WinXP SP2.

05-24-10, 05:27 PM	#5
fred8615 Saint of the seas Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sorrento, Louisiana Posts: 1,320 Downloads: 265 Uploads: 127	Well that blows! The other two patrols I wanted to use a time trigger in I can get around not having it. But this one really needed it. Oh well, can't have everything I guess. BTW, that empty PH attack message you got is a bug in the stock messages.txt. There's mods out there that fix it. Thanks again for all your help. __________________ Frederick J. Barnett Radio Stations & Music Captain's Desk Photos FJB Camera Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start Office links, Info Boxes, & 50 cal Crew Rank Fix Sub Class Info Real Subs SH4 Randomizer Sub Images Office Images Sub Pinups & Pics 24 Hour Clocks Office Posters Nav Map Make-Over Add-ons FJB Navigation Maps Office Window Chronographs Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done! Do you think that's easy?! - Gregory Peck, The Guns of Navarone.

05-25-10, 01:01 PM	#6
fred8615 Saint of the seas Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sorrento, Louisiana Posts: 1,320 Downloads: 265 Uploads: 127	I got it! I got it! I got it! It turns the start date for the mission in the PatrolObjectives.cfg has an influence. Also, the start dates in both it and the mission need to be when the patrol actually starts. In the case of what I'm doing, it's always Dec. 2nd. For some reason the message is 14 hours later than the time set, but that can be dealt with by subtracting those hours from the time you want it to display. Otherwise, it works perfectly! __________________ Frederick J. Barnett Radio Stations & Music Captain's Desk Photos FJB Camera Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start Office links, Info Boxes, & 50 cal Crew Rank Fix Sub Class Info Real Subs SH4 Randomizer Sub Images Office Images Sub Pinups & Pics 24 Hour Clocks Office Posters Nav Map Make-Over Add-ons FJB Navigation Maps Office Window Chronographs Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done! Do you think that's easy?! - Gregory Peck, The Guns of Navarone.