SH4 v 1.5 vs SH5 Curious..

cptroyce · 05-18-10, 10:35 PM

Came back to SH after a few years. Found SH4, modded it up and am learning it and enjoying this sim very much.

I am wondering, the reviews aside...why SH5? What is the difference between it (assuming it was finished and released properly) and SH4 UBM with whatever great mod one uses? Is it graphics, sim construction?

SH4 modded up seems to rather perfect.

Regards,
Royce

Sailor Steve · 05-18-10, 10:55 PM

Better graphics, captain's POV (you can walk around the whole boat from stem to stern, more crew animations, more dynamic campaign (if you cause trouble in one spot the enemy will beef up defenses and sent ships to hunt you). There's a lot more, but it was overly ambitious and needs a lot of fine-tuning before it's really ready. That said, there's a reasonable chance that when it is tuned up it will be far and away the best.

Still, for now I'm playing SH3 and SH4 at the same time.

magic452 · 05-18-10, 11:40 PM

I would stick with 4 until they get 5 fixed up.
1.5 with Operation Monsoon is a pretty good set up.
They will no doubt get 5 looking and acting very good but it's going to take some time for all the patches and full mods.
The modders have done an amazing job so far so I would expect that they will get the job done.
Personally if it wasn't for mods all three of the games would have had a short life.

Magic

McHibbins · 05-19-10, 05:49 AM

For me SH5 needs a (free) campaign like SH3+4 and a bigger variety of targets.
SH5 is like my Ex-girlfriend : a beauty without heart and soul.

Admiral8Q · 05-19-10, 08:22 AM

If it wasn't a constant connection that was required... maybe

Rockin Robbins · 05-19-10, 08:55 AM

If it didn't eliminate your legal fair use rights to copyrighted materials to sell, lend or give away your game and if you weren't victim to Ubi's willingness to continue the expense of running its three servers to cover the entire world, then it might be worth a look.

As it is now, with the DRM you have no right to lend, sell or give the game away and if they shut down the servers tomorrow, which they have full rights to do, your game is just wasted space on your hard drive plus a drink coaster with a hole in the middle.

If SH4 is a great game, and it is, there is no reason to jump on the Titanic. Loud and obnoxious voices are screaming that she can't sink, but I assure you she will and probably sooner rather than later.

05-18-10, 10:35 PM	#1
cptroyce Gunner Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 99 Downloads: 298 Uploads: 0	SH4 v 1.5 vs SH5 Curious.. Came back to SH after a few years. Found SH4, modded it up and am learning it and enjoying this sim very much. I am wondering, the reviews aside...why SH5? What is the difference between it (assuming it was finished and released properly) and SH4 UBM with whatever great mod one uses? Is it graphics, sim construction? SH4 modded up seems to rather perfect. Regards, Royce

05-18-10, 10:55 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Better graphics, captain's POV (you can walk around the whole boat from stem to stern, more crew animations, more dynamic campaign (if you cause trouble in one spot the enemy will beef up defenses and sent ships to hunt you). There's a lot more, but it was overly ambitious and needs a lot of fine-tuning before it's really ready. That said, there's a reasonable chance that when it is tuned up it will be far and away the best. Still, for now I'm playing SH3 and SH4 at the same time. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

05-18-10, 11:40 PM	#3
magic452 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Reno Nevada USA Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I would stick with 4 until they get 5 fixed up. 1.5 with Operation Monsoon is a pretty good set up. They will no doubt get 5 looking and acting very good but it's going to take some time for all the patches and full mods. The modders have done an amazing job so far so I would expect that they will get the job done. Personally if it wasn't for mods all three of the games would have had a short life. Magic __________________ Reported lost 11 Feb. 1942 Signature by depthtok33l

05-19-10, 05:49 AM	#4
McHibbins Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Good old Germany Posts: 739 Downloads: 80 Uploads: 0	For me SH5 needs a (free) campaign like SH3+4 and a bigger variety of targets. SH5 is like my Ex-girlfriend : a beauty without heart and soul. __________________

05-19-10, 08:22 AM	#5
Admiral8Q Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Prince Edward Island, Canada Posts: 1,077 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	If it wasn't a constant connection that was required... maybe __________________

05-19-10, 08:55 AM	#6
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	If it didn't eliminate your legal fair use rights to copyrighted materials to sell, lend or give away your game and if you weren't victim to Ubi's willingness to continue the expense of running its three servers to cover the entire world, then it might be worth a look. As it is now, with the DRM you have no right to lend, sell or give the game away and if they shut down the servers tomorrow, which they have full rights to do, your game is just wasted space on your hard drive plus a drink coaster with a hole in the middle. If SH4 is a great game, and it is, there is no reason to jump on the Titanic. Loud and obnoxious voices are screaming that she can't sink, but I assure you she will and probably sooner rather than later. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS