Im back to the Future..and i feel a mountain falls on my head :)

Tobias99 · 05-10-10, 02:10 AM

Hey Guys,

after many spend hours with ww2 subs, i will give a try DW..
But i feel theres a UFO in compare with ww2 subs..

Is there anywhere a training mission where i can learned step! by step! how to control the stations, especially sonar and tma?

thank you

regards tobias

Delareon · 05-10-10, 02:21 AM

welcome aboard

for TMA i would recommened you to check this out: http://www.commanders-academy.com/wi...aining_Mission

At this site there are many other good sources.
Also http://subguru.com/downloads.html you find many good sources.

And yes you should forget everything you know about submarine tactics you have learned from ww2 the modern subs are completely different.

I dont know how much experience you have in ww2 especially your realism settings but i would recommened you to let the autocrew do the TMA first and try to learn the other stations. When you have mastered them go for TMA

Tobias99 · 05-10-10, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delareon

welcome aboard

for TMA i would recommened you to check this out: http://www.commanders-academy.com/wi...aining_Mission

At this site there are many other good sources.
Also http://subguru.com/downloads.html you find many good sources.

And yes you should forget everything you know about submarine tactics you have learned from ww2 the modern subs are completely different.

I dont know how much experience you have in ww2 especially your realism settings but i would recommened you to let the autocrew do the TMA first and try to learn the other stations. When you have mastered them go for TMA

Thank you delareon, so you must live with the role as my mentor, Crewchief ..i think i have lots and lots of question during my carrier on a modern boat..

WW2 sims i played with full realism

Regards Tobias

Delareon · 05-10-10, 05:30 AM

He he, feel free to ask!
Well im not really the expert of modern warfare, i will answer every question i have a good answer for. But i think the rest of the "Subsim-Crew" here will also be glad to answer

Tobias99 · 05-10-10, 09:01 AM

Ok, Chrewchiefs,

here my first question after i played the "Demo-mission" with the Kilo-Class..

My Goal is to sunk the freighter, where is escorted by a Destroyer "Oliver Perry" class..
I have at all station my "automatic-crew" on, but i deactivated "show the truth"..

When i recieved the active sonar pings from the destroyer and raised my ESM-Antenna, why can my automatic crewman this destroyer not identified as an destroyer and as an destryoer from "Perry" class..
Enough data there would to be? or?

regards

OneShot · 05-10-10, 09:22 AM

I guess you found the DW Wiki ... my suggestion, for starters use the walkthrough for the 2 Demo missions. Learning on the job - so to speak.

As for your particular question ... the ESM station gives you multiple options in regard to what the contact (i.e. the transmitting station) could be. The autocrew simply isn't smart enough to select one of them - the classification is up to you.

NFunky · 05-10-10, 10:13 AM

For some reason, ESM is basically the one station where you don't have an autocrew option (periscope too, but that one makes sense), so you have to mark all contacts yourself. If a signal is too weak you won't get a classification, though often if you leave the cursor on the same radar contact for a few sweeps, you'll get one. This can happen with strong signals as well if you only catch them with the cursor as they are fading, but all you have to do is wait for another sweep and you'll get the ID.

I don't actually think you get multiple options in ESM like you do in narrowband sonar. I'll have to check, but I'm pretty sure in ESM you either have an ID or not, there's no in between. This is, of course, another realism flaw in the game, but I'm not going to make an issue of it.

05-10-10, 02:10 AM	#1
Tobias99 Seaman Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 38 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Im back to the Future..and i feel a mountain falls on my head :) Hey Guys, after many spend hours with ww2 subs, i will give a try DW.. But i feel theres a UFO in compare with ww2 subs.. Is there anywhere a training mission where i can learned step! by step! how to control the stations, especially sonar and tma? thank you regards tobias

05-10-10, 09:22 AM	#6
OneShot Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 956 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I guess you found the DW Wiki ... my suggestion, for starters use the walkthrough for the 2 Demo missions. Learning on the job - so to speak. As for your particular question ... the ESM station gives you multiple options in regard to what the contact (i.e. the transmitting station) could be. The autocrew simply isn't smart enough to select one of them - the classification is up to you. __________________ All the things you always wanted to know about Dangerous Waters but never dared to ask!

05-10-10, 02:21 AM	#2
Delareon Planesman Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 192 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	welcome aboard for TMA i would recommened you to check this out: http://www.commanders-academy.com/wi...aining_Mission At this site there are many other good sources. Also http://subguru.com/downloads.html you find many good sources. And yes you should forget everything you know about submarine tactics you have learned from ww2 the modern subs are completely different. I dont know how much experience you have in ww2 especially your realism settings but i would recommened you to let the autocrew do the TMA first and try to learn the other stations. When you have mastered them go for TMA

05-10-10, 05:30 AM	#4
Delareon Planesman Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 192 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	He he, feel free to ask! Well im not really the expert of modern warfare, i will answer every question i have a good answer for. But i think the rest of the "Subsim-Crew" here will also be glad to answer

05-10-10, 09:01 AM	#5
Tobias99 Seaman Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 38 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Ok, Chrewchiefs, here my first question after i played the "Demo-mission" with the Kilo-Class.. My Goal is to sunk the freighter, where is escorted by a Destroyer "Oliver Perry" class.. I have at all station my "automatic-crew" on, but i deactivated "show the truth".. When i recieved the active sonar pings from the destroyer and raised my ESM-Antenna, why can my automatic crewman this destroyer not identified as an destroyer and as an destryoer from "Perry" class.. Enough data there would to be? or? regards

05-10-10, 10:13 AM	#7
NFunky Machinist's Mate Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 127 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	For some reason, ESM is basically the one station where you don't have an autocrew option (periscope too, but that one makes sense), so you have to mark all contacts yourself. If a signal is too weak you won't get a classification, though often if you leave the cursor on the same radar contact for a few sweeps, you'll get one. This can happen with strong signals as well if you only catch them with the cursor as they are fading, but all you have to do is wait for another sweep and you'll get the ID. I don't actually think you get multiple options in ESM like you do in narrowband sonar. I'll have to check, but I'm pretty sure in ESM you either have an ID or not, there's no in between. This is, of course, another realism flaw in the game, but I'm not going to make an issue of it.