Crew fatigue

[Immelman]

Hi all,

Does any one know the differences in crew fatigue models offered in SH3 Commander. There is a bunch of different ones SH3, Rub... and so on does anyone know which does what exactly or is there a manual somewhere with this info?

Thanks

[Immelman]

Basically the problem I am having using the stock SH3 fatigue model ever since I upgraded form GWX 2.1 to GWX 3.0 my sailors get their endurance back but my officers do not. They take forever to get their endurance back even though they have higher resilience and moral then the regular crew. Before I upgraded they were the first to get their endurance back. Does anyone know what gives?

Thanks

[TarJak]

You could play no fatigue. The SH3 fatigue model is completely borked IMHO so I eradicate it from the picture. I assume the NCO's and watch officers are doing their job of getting the men out of the racks and fartsacks and on the job when needed. Putting everyone to bed is too Sims like for me.

[Weiss Pinguin]

Originally Posted by TarJak

You could play no fatigue. The SH3 fatigue model is completely borked IMHO so I eradicate it from the picture. I assume the NCO's and watch officers are doing their job of getting the men out of the racks and fartsacks and on the job when needed. Putting everyone to bed is too Sims like for me.

Yep. I thought it'd be weird, but it felt so much better not having to stop every so often to put the crew to bed. Now if that watch officer would just get off his rear and into the conning tower on his own...

[schlechter pfennig]

Originally Posted by Immelman

Basically the problem I am having using the stock SH3 fatigue model ever since I upgraded form GWX 2.1 to GWX 3.0 my sailors get their endurance back but my officers do not. They take forever to get their endurance back even though they have higher resilience and moral then the regular crew. Before I upgraded they were the first to get their endurance back. Does anyone know what gives?

Thanks

Originally Posted by TarJak

You could play no fatigue. The SH3 fatigue model is completely borked IMHO so I eradicate it from the picture. I assume the NCO's and watch officers are doing their job of getting the men out of the racks and fartsacks and on the job when needed. Putting everyone to bed is too Sims like for me.

Sorry Immelman, I'm not sure what the problem is, unless it's the fatigue model you're using. I use the GWX 8 hour model myself.

I sorta agree with you TarJak, in that I would expect in RL for those matters to be seen to by my subordinate officers. But I feel like I'm sorta cheating if I use no fatigue at all. I've found a reasonable compromise in using the GWX model, because if I'm at TC128 or higher no one fatigues. They only do at lower settings, which is normally tracking, hunting, combat and evasion times for me, and it's reasonably easy for me to just swap a few tired ones out now and then.

[Weiss Pinguin]

Originally Posted by schlechter pfennig

I sorta agree with you TarJak, in that I would expect in RL for those matters to be seen to by my subordinate officers. But I feel like I'm sorta cheating if I use no fatigue at all. I've found a reasonable compromise in using the GWX model, because if I'm at TC128 or higher no one fatigues. They only do at lower settings, which is normally tracking, hunting, combat and evasion times for me, and it's reasonably easy for me to just swap a few tired ones out now and then.

For me the ideal fatigue model would be one that only really kicked in during combat/maybe rough weather, and slowly overtime as the patrol went on.

I think Irish or someone was looking at doing something like that - I think the exact idea was actually to just give the crew only about half endurance/morale for the entire patorl - with SH3 commander, but ran into some hiccups. (Forgot exactly what)

[Hook]

If you have used SH3Commander to set the fatigue model to stock, then it will take seamen 30 minutes to regain fatigue, petty officers 50 minutes, and officers about 2 hours. This is the fatigue model from the stock game.

Hook

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Weiss Pinguin

For me the ideal fatigue model would be one that only really kicked in during combat/maybe rough weather, and slowly overtime as the patrol went on.

I think Irish or someone was looking at doing something like that - I think the exact idea was actually to just give the crew only about half endurance/morale for the entire patorl - with SH3 commander, but ran into some hiccups. (Forgot exactly what)

Real U-Boat used that model, I think. They fatigued very slowly, but they also didn't recover. You still had to switch them out so you wouldn't have some fresh and some who could barely work at all. Some folks really liked it, others could never quite get the hang of it.

Originally Posted by jimbuna

It's better/worse than that....depending on your viewpoint.

Fatigue stops at anything above x32

For you, maybe. I have mine set so they fatigue at any speed. I'm thinking about changing it, though.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by schlechter pfennig

Sorry Immelman, I'm not sure what the problem is, unless it's the fatigue model you're using. I use the GWX 8 hour model myself.

I sorta agree with you TarJak, in that I would expect in RL for those matters to be seen to by my subordinate officers. But I feel like I'm sorta cheating if I use no fatigue at all. I've found a reasonable compromise in using the GWX model, because if I'm at TC128 or higher no one fatigues. They only do at lower settings, which is normally tracking, hunting, combat and evasion times for me, and it's reasonably easy for me to just swap a few tired ones out now and then.

It's better/worse than that....depending on your viewpoint.

Fatigue stops at anything above x32

[tomoose]

I'm using GWX 3.0 and almost all my crew on my current patrol have those annoying big red exclamation marks next to them. There's no 'space' to rest the crew at all.

I guess I'll have to look at the SH3 Comd fatigue settings as this is just a annoying.