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Old 04-24-10, 11:02 AM   #1
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This story actually brings a tear to my eyes...

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A heroic homeless man, stabbed after saving a Queens woman from a knife-wielding attacker, lay dying in a pool of blood for more than an hour as nearly 25 people indifferently strolled past him, a shocking surveillance video obtained by the New York Post reveals.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/04/24...ng-nyc-street/
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Old 04-24-10, 11:19 AM   #2
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What the hell? I think each person who shook, looked at, and even TOOK a picture of him should be thrown in jail for assisted murder. Obviously they didn't do anything to help him, so they're assisting.

No one deserves that after helping someone. What I want to know is where did the woman go after the attack?
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Old 04-24-10, 11:25 AM   #3
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Well, that just reinforces my general contempt for the masses.
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Old 04-24-10, 02:26 PM   #4
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This has happened many times in the past. One of the problems with crowds is that everyone thinks that someone else is/will help.

Very sad story.

That and the fear of aids makes a bleeding victim a very risky save.
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Old 04-24-10, 02:33 PM   #5
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I'm old enough to remember the case of Kitty Genovese.
http://www2.selu.edu/Academics/Facul.../gansberg.html

Today it's called the 'Genovese Syndrome' - "I didn't want to get involved".

It's tragic that the one man in this case who was willing to get involved had to die because of the others who weren't.
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Old 04-24-10, 02:39 PM   #6
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This has happened many times in the past. One of the problems with crowds is that everyone thinks that someone else is/will help.

Very sad story.

That and the fear of aids makes a bleeding victim a very risky save.
They evidently have a fear of using a cell phone for calling for help as well.
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Old 04-24-10, 02:57 PM   #7
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When I was teaching First Responders, we used to tell them, not to call out "will someone call 911" for no one would.

We used to teach them to pick someone out of the crowd and ask them " Will YOU call 911" you get much better response.

The American Red Cross, among others, have conducted studies on "crowd mentality" vs personal "mentality" People act differently in a crowd.
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Old 04-25-10, 06:08 AM   #8
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They evidently have a fear of using a cell phone for calling for help as well.
Precisely my thoughts

As already posted...far better if someone attending points out an individual ghoul or zombie (our talk for those who stand idly by simply gazing) and in an assertive tone gives a clear instruction to them telling them what you require them to do.
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What the hell? I think each person who shook, looked at, and even TOOK a picture of him should be thrown in jail for assisted murder. Obviously they didn't do anything to help him, so they're assisting.

No one deserves that after helping someone. What I want to know is where did the woman go after the attack?
Not taking action to help is not the same as assisting him to die, now is it?
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