VIIb or VIIc?

ALOTEF · 04-05-10, 06:46 AM

Hey guys.
The thread name is pretty self-explanatory.
I have reached 1941 in my career, but have to make a decision. Upgrade to the VIIc, or keep to the VIIb?

VIIb.
Pros: Faster dive times, speed, and lighter weight.
Cons: Not as many attachments. (Conning towers, Guns etc.)

VIIc:
Pros: Lots of attachments...
Cons: Slower dive times, less speed, and heavier.

So, what do you think?
Regards,
Mike.

KL-alfman · 04-05-10, 06:51 AM

the VIIC has a better crush-depth too, I guess.

Tom · 04-05-10, 07:08 AM

I thought the VIIc dived faster than the VIIb. 27 secs for the VIIc and 30 secs for the VIIb, if I recall correctly. This, I think, is the most important difference between the two. Evasion is generally a better option against aircraft than shooting back at them, especially later in the war, so the better late game flak armament of the VIIc isn't really that important.

Crush depths are the same I think, at least the factory test depth is 150 m.

In any case, the differences are minimal.

Paul Riley · 04-05-10, 07:08 AM

Personally I would favour speed and better dive times,so if your stats for each UBoat are correct then the VIIB would be the better choice.If however you like the extra armament then the VIIC would be your choice.
In a nutshell,performance saves lives,especially against severe air threats.

How does the VIIC 41 compare to the above stats?

EDIT: I thought the VIIC had better performance and dive times?

Paul Riley · 04-05-10, 07:14 AM

Some useful info

Type VIIB http://www.uboat.net/types/viib.htm
Type VIIC http://www.uboat.net/types/viic.htm
Type VIIC/41 http://www.uboat.net/types/viic-41.htm

sergei · 04-05-10, 07:28 AM

Or save the renown for when the VIIC/41 becomes available.
That can dive deeper.

Paul Riley · 04-05-10, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sergei

Or save the renown for when the VIIC/41 becomes available.
That can dive deeper.

Apparently by an extra 50m!

If that is the case and I have managed to reach 220m in my VIIB then that pushes the limit to almost 300m!

04-05-10, 06:46 AM	#1
ALOTEF Watch Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 28 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	VIIb or VIIc? Hey guys. The thread name is pretty self-explanatory. I have reached 1941 in my career, but have to make a decision. Upgrade to the VIIc, or keep to the VIIb? VIIb. Pros: Faster dive times, speed, and lighter weight. Cons: Not as many attachments. (Conning towers, Guns etc.) VIIc: Pros: Lots of attachments... Cons: Slower dive times, less speed, and heavier. So, what do you think? Regards, Mike.

04-05-10, 06:51 AM	#2
KL-alfman Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Weimar Posts: 930 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	the VIIC has a better crush-depth too, I guess. __________________ Life, Liberty and Property!

04-05-10, 07:08 AM	#4
Paul Riley Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 2,679 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	Personally I would favour speed and better dive times,so if your stats for each UBoat are correct then the VIIB would be the better choice.If however you like the extra armament then the VIIC would be your choice. In a nutshell,performance saves lives,especially against severe air threats. How does the VIIC 41 compare to the above stats? EDIT: I thought the VIIC had better performance and dive times? __________________ Best Patrol: 10 merchants + HMS Nelson for 68.056 Tonnes

04-05-10, 07:14 AM	#5
Paul Riley Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 2,679 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	UBoat stats Some useful info Type VIIB http://www.uboat.net/types/viib.htm Type VIIC http://www.uboat.net/types/viic.htm Type VIIC/41 http://www.uboat.net/types/viic-41.htm __________________ Best Patrol: 10 merchants + HMS Nelson for 68.056 Tonnes

04-05-10, 07:08 AM	#3
Tom Gunner Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 97 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I thought the VIIc dived faster than the VIIb. 27 secs for the VIIc and 30 secs for the VIIb, if I recall correctly. This, I think, is the most important difference between the two. Evasion is generally a better option against aircraft than shooting back at them, especially later in the war, so the better late game flak armament of the VIIc isn't really that important. Crush depths are the same I think, at least the factory test depth is 150 m. In any case, the differences are minimal.

04-05-10, 07:28 AM	#6
sergei Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 1,788 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 29	Or save the renown for when the VIIC/41 becomes available. That can dive deeper.