The conning towers are wrong?

Ark · 03-22-10, 10:14 PM

Noticed in the Mods forum that somebody mentioned that the VIIB is using the VIIC conning tower?

Seriously, The devs didn't even put the proper conning towers on the correct subs?

I thought the point of modelling essentially "one sub class" was to have increased detail, not less.

nikimcbee · 03-22-10, 10:17 PM

Do you have any links or pix?

Ducimus · 03-22-10, 10:22 PM

For what its worth, the 2nd 7B conning tower is correct.

But ahh.. if what i saw what i saw correctly the other day, the upc file for the subs is all fubared. You'll never see it, or the 7C's turn/2 without fixing the ubuats UPC files. If you know what to adjust, it takes 5 minutes to fix.

Ark · 03-22-10, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Do you have any links or pix?

No links or pics, just someobdy who mentioned in the "mods" section regarding the VIIB using the standard VIIC conning tower.

IIRC, somebody had mentioned this before the game was released some months back (when some of the first screens came out).

I went from the VIIA to the VIIC so I don't have ay pics of the VIIB yet. However, if you go to the museum in-game, it sure looks like the VIIB is using the VIIC conning tower.

@Ducimus: Can you tell if the first VIIB tower is even in the game? (I am still learning to find my way around the files).

oscar19681 · 03-23-10, 08:15 AM

It is me who is hammering on the fact the VIIB has the wrong conning tower. I havent seen any evidence supporting the fact that the 2nd VIIB conning tower is correct and i would love to see some screenshots of it. Anyway i have been asking on the mod forum for somebody to fix this but noone had ventured out there yet to give it a go. I got a PM from Dan of the dev team saying that after the first patch it should be easy to fix (i guess this was ment as a hint for the modders to do the job) . But if there really is a 2nd VIIB that is indeed correct (i have yet to find it in museum or game files) then how hard can it be to fix the 1st one?

oscar19681 · 03-23-10, 10:38 AM

In the goblin editor i did find what i would call a modified VIIC tower to look somewhat like a VIIB tower. But still its not as good as the one they did for sh-3. And you can only get this tower if you upgrade it. I dare to say this is somewhat of a sloppy job by the devs.

Florent · 03-25-10, 12:07 PM

All the conning towers for B model in the game are OK for now.
The first can be seen when you select the Narvik mission and VII B, you will get an early tower like Prien's U47 at the time of Scapa Flow and perhaps until july 40.
If you select the Bismark mission you will get a late tower.
What is not known is if the second or intermediary tower (like silent hunter 3) or cut tower is there. For this we have to wait for the patch and see if we can have this cut tower during improvements.
The photos showing some of the last pictures of U-47 in february 41 show this new "cut" tower.
As i said above, the Narvik mission shows a correct tower with a small basket or bath behind like A but has wind deflector in the middle of the tower.
I hope to have this early type B soon with the patch.

mookiemookie · 03-25-10, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ark

Noticed in the Mods forum that somebody mentioned that the VIIB is using the VIIC conning tower?

I guess it doesn't matter as the game skips the VIIB and takes you straight from the VIIA to a VIIC. We never see the VIIB at all.

03-22-10, 10:14 PM	#1
Ark Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Fresno, CA. Posts: 581 Downloads: 95 Uploads: 0	The conning towers are wrong? Noticed in the Mods forum that somebody mentioned that the VIIB is using the VIIC conning tower? Seriously, The devs didn't even put the proper conning towers on the correct subs? I thought the point of modelling essentially "one sub class" was to have increased detail, not less. __________________ Ark -------------- Vista 64-bit SP1 Asus P6T Deluxe mobo Core i7 920 @ 3.8ghz 6GB G.Skill DDR3 1600 Evga GTX 285 SSC SB X-FI Fatality 640GB WD "Black" Dell 3007WFP-HC 30" LCD / Acer 23" H233H

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nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Do you have any links or pix? __________________

03-23-10, 08:15 AM	#5
oscar19681 Admiral Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	It is me who is hammering on the fact the VIIB has the wrong conning tower. I havent seen any evidence supporting the fact that the 2nd VIIB conning tower is correct and i would love to see some screenshots of it. Anyway i have been asking on the mod forum for somebody to fix this but noone had ventured out there yet to give it a go. I got a PM from Dan of the dev team saying that after the first patch it should be easy to fix (i guess this was ment as a hint for the modders to do the job) . But if there really is a 2nd VIIB that is indeed correct (i have yet to find it in museum or game files) then how hard can it be to fix the 1st one? __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971

03-23-10, 10:38 AM	#6
oscar19681 Admiral Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	In the goblin editor i did find what i would call a modified VIIC tower to look somewhat like a VIIB tower. But still its not as good as the one they did for sh-3. And you can only get this tower if you upgrade it. I dare to say this is somewhat of a sloppy job by the devs. __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971

03-22-10, 10:22 PM	#3
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	For what its worth, the 2nd 7B conning tower is correct. But ahh.. if what i saw what i saw correctly the other day, the upc file for the subs is all fubared. You'll never see it, or the 7C's turn/2 without fixing the ubuats UPC files. If you know what to adjust, it takes 5 minutes to fix.

03-25-10, 12:07 PM	#7
Florent Watch Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 27 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	All the conning towers for B model in the game are OK for now. The first can be seen when you select the Narvik mission and VII B, you will get an early tower like Prien's U47 at the time of Scapa Flow and perhaps until july 40. If you select the Bismark mission you will get a late tower. What is not known is if the second or intermediary tower (like silent hunter 3) or cut tower is there. For this we have to wait for the patch and see if we can have this cut tower during improvements. The photos showing some of the last pictures of U-47 in february 41 show this new "cut" tower. As i said above, the Narvik mission shows a correct tower with a small basket or bath behind like A but has wind deflector in the middle of the tower. I hope to have this early type B soon with the patch.