Merchants have too many hitpoints?

gimpy117 · 03-14-10, 01:32 AM

when is it true that 3 torpedos can sink a King George the 5th class but it cant kill a liberty ship/large steamer??

i mean im happy i sunk a battleship with 3 eels but really? i really wanna stop pumping torpedo after torpedo into those merchants!

remowilliams · 03-14-10, 01:58 AM

Upgrade the torpedoman's Warhead Specialist and Preheat abilities to max and you won't need more than two eels (and maybe a few deck gun rounds) to sink any merchant.

And you'll need the Morale Mod since the morale system is extremely broken. :P

Decoman · 03-14-10, 02:33 AM

The notion of hitpoints has alienated me from the game, among other things.

I thought the damage inflicted on a ship depended on the structure of the ship, where a torpedo or shell might inflict critical damage depending on exactly where it hit. And then I imainged that there would be another system for sorting out flooding.

Does SH5 not have a decent damage system? I am confused

remowilliams · 03-14-10, 02:46 AM

Flooding is definitely figured in. I've seen many a ship sink after taking torpedo damage and then taking on water. There are still some stupid things going on with damaged ships sailing on however.

kittelmann · 03-14-10, 03:34 AM

But flooding is not nearly as important as raw hit points in SH5. In SH3 it felt like 50% of the ships would sink due to flooding, in SH5 perhaps 10% sinks from flooding. To see a merchant with 2 1 meter holes through the hull hardly affected from flooding feels a bit strange.

jwilliams · 03-14-10, 03:55 AM

SH3 GWX most ships sunk from flooding. took along time (which is how it should be), but it sunk.

I havent seen a ship sink from flooding in SH5. Even with 3 torpedo holes in it. I waited 2 hrs (TC) and it just sat there. Didnt even list.

So i fired the deck gun at it. One hit and it went boom, broke in half, and then sank.

Not realistic IMO.

OlegM · 03-15-10, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by remowilliams

Upgrade the torpedoman's Warhead Specialist and Preheat abilities to max

OMG

If only Doenitz knew this trick.....

SteamWake · 03-15-10, 11:36 AM

Nuclear tipped torpedos ftw

Yak · 03-18-10, 02:34 AM

Is there One Torpedo To Rule Them All forged from the fires of der Adlerhof that can be unlocked when you get your captain to Level 60?

robbo180265 · 03-18-10, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Yak

Is there One Torpedo To Rule Them All forged from the fires of der Adlerhof that can be unlocked when you get your captain to Level 60?

LMAO!

gimpy117 · 03-18-10, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yak

Is there One Torpedo To Rule Them All forged from the fires of der Adlerhof that can be unlocked when you get your captain to Level 60?

know because some stupid hobbit threw it back into the volcano

03-14-10, 01:32 AM	#1
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	Merchants have too many hitpoints? when is it true that 3 torpedos can sink a King George the 5th class but it cant kill a liberty ship/large steamer?? i mean im happy i sunk a battleship with 3 eels but really? i really wanna stop pumping torpedo after torpedo into those merchants! __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

03-14-10, 03:55 AM	#6
jwilliams Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,013 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	SH3 GWX most ships sunk from flooding. took along time (which is how it should be), but it sunk. I havent seen a ship sink from flooding in SH5. Even with 3 torpedo holes in it. I waited 2 hrs (TC) and it just sat there. Didnt even list. So i fired the deck gun at it. One hit and it went boom, broke in half, and then sank. Not realistic IMO. __________________ Windows 7, 64bit. Phenom II 965BE (OC 4cores @ 3.8 Ghz). Radeon HD4870 (1gb gddr5). 6gb Ram.

03-15-10, 11:36 AM	#8
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Nuclear tipped torpedos ftw __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

03-18-10, 02:34 AM	#9
Yak Torpedoman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Here, sometimes there Posts: 113 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Is there One Torpedo To Rule Them All forged from the fires of der Adlerhof that can be unlocked when you get your captain to Level 60? __________________ It all started with a goat, a golf club and a pack of Marlboro Red's...

03-14-10, 01:58 AM	#2
remowilliams Loader Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 90 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Upgrade the torpedoman's Warhead Specialist and Preheat abilities to max and you won't need more than two eels (and maybe a few deck gun rounds) to sink any merchant. And you'll need the Morale Mod since the morale system is extremely broken. :P

03-14-10, 02:33 AM	#3
Decoman Frogman Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 306 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	The notion of hitpoints has alienated me from the game, among other things. I thought the damage inflicted on a ship depended on the structure of the ship, where a torpedo or shell might inflict critical damage depending on exactly where it hit. And then I imainged that there would be another system for sorting out flooding. Does SH5 not have a decent damage system? I am confused

03-14-10, 02:46 AM	#4
remowilliams Loader Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 90 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Flooding is definitely figured in. I've seen many a ship sink after taking torpedo damage and then taking on water. There are still some stupid things going on with damaged ships sailing on however.

03-14-10, 03:34 AM	#5
kittelmann Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 5 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	But flooding is not nearly as important as raw hit points in SH5. In SH3 it felt like 50% of the ships would sink due to flooding, in SH5 perhaps 10% sinks from flooding. To see a merchant with 2 1 meter holes through the hull hardly affected from flooding feels a bit strange.