The Internet? Bah!

Onkel Neal · 03-10-10, 07:33 PM

Ever been wrong, I mean, really, really wrong?

Article from the last century, check the date.

razark · 03-10-10, 07:46 PM

Oh my.

That was a fun read. Thanks.

ReFaN · 03-10-10, 07:49 PM

haha

Dowly · 03-10-10, 07:50 PM

Hahaha

Castout · 03-10-10, 07:53 PM

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How about electronic publishing? Try reading a book on disc. At best, it's an unpleasant chore: the myopic glow of a clunky computer replaces the friendly pages of a book. And you can't tote that laptop to the beach. Yet Nicholas Negroponte, director of the MIT Media Lab, predicts that we'll soon buy books and newspapers straight over the Intenet. Uh, sure.

There's such computer peripheral that's called PRINTER.

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What the Internet hucksters won't tell you is tht the Internet is one big ocean of unedited data, without any pretense of completeness. Lacking editors, reviewers or critics, the Internet has become a wasteland of unfiltered data. You don't know what to ignore and what's worth reading.

They don't tell you because you're expected to be aware of that! It's called virtual street smart where one is expected to be apply his or her own judgment with regard to the information that he or she got from the internet.

In less than free countries there's no such thing as freedom of press thus the people in that country only read what their government want them to read even to the point of printing propaganda as news headline. This is INSULTING to the people's intellect and no way to develop the community to be an independent and critical lot. It's best to make a community of bots and zombies.

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Logged onto the World Wide Web, I hunt for the date of the Battle of Trafalgar. Hundreds of files show up, and it takes 15 minutes to unravel them—one's a biography written by an eighth grader, the second is a computer game that doesn't work and the third is an image of a London monument. None answers my question, and my search is periodically interrupted by messages like, "Too many connectios, try again later."

One needs to be internet smart to find what he's looking for from the internet. It's still way faster than coming to a physical library one place at a time and look for the information yourself

"What the Internet hucksters won't tell you is tht the Internet is one big ocean of unedited data, without any pretense of completeness. Lacking editors, reviewers or critics, the Internet has become a wasteland of unfiltered data. You don't know what to ignore and what's worth reading. "

The fact that the writer himself knows that the internet is one big ocean of unedited data and information is a BIG HINT that everybody else who's reading this will know that too after using the internet after some short while

And whose standard should all the information be edited to? Hitler's? Stalin's? CIA? or the kid next door?

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These expensive toys are difficult to use in classrooms and require extensive teacher training. Sure, kids love videogames—but think of your own experience: can you recall even one educational filmstrip of decades past? I'll bet you remember the two or three great teachers who made a difference in your life.

A decade ago they didn't use filmstrip to teach students. Even when they did they would use it only rarely. The writer is mentioning the computer as toys that implies that they are TOOL not meant to replace any human teacher! So What's the point of saying that it couldn't replace human teachers? Because they are not meant to replace people!

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Stores will become obselete. So how come my local mall does more business in an afternoon than the entire Internet handles in a month? Even if there were a trustworthy way to send money over the Internet—which there isn't—the network is missing a most essential ingredient of capitalism: salespeople.

Well that would mean his local mall is either in a very good business time or the internet business he set up was not winning over competition. Because most probably ONLINE BUSINESSES COMPETE GLOBALLY!

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What's missing from this electronic wonderland? Human contact. Discount the fawning techno-burble about virtual communities. Computers and networks isolate us from one another. A network chat line is a limp substitute for meeting friends over coffee.

That's the whole point of internet that we could stay in touch even though we are not physically near one another. It's called communication technology the same with LIVE TV, MOBILE SET, SNAIL MAIL, TELEGRAM, RADIO.

Fincuan · 03-10-10, 07:55 PM

So you didn't check the date, did you Castout?

Good read that one.

Castout · 03-10-10, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fincuan

So you didn't check the date, did you Castout?

Good read that one.

LOL 1995

I lose face and now I'll commit seppuku

Onkel Neal · 03-10-10, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Castout

LOL 1995

I lose face and now I'll commit seppuku

Oh sorry, I didn't mean to set you up

Castout · 03-11-10, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Oh sorry, I didn't mean to set you up

No need to apologize Neal

You didn't intend harm or anything I believe it was a sloppiness on my part

First thing to look up on internet news: The date

TarJak · 03-10-10, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Castout

How old is the writer 10 year old kid?

I guess the writer comes from a dictatorship regime or friend of one either that or he's a 75 year old person who is too old to understand PC and the internet.

Not even when he wrote this.

He's in his fifties or sixties now I think but back then would have only been in his thirties.

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Originally Posted by Castout

LOL 1995

I lose face and now I'll commit seppuku

Which actually means he's right in a lot of ways. It is an unfiltered mess that we must be really careful when interpreting. Othwise we may say something rash.

For an interesting read pick up a copy of his book Cukoo's Egg about how he track down an international spy hacking ring based on a $0.75 accounting discrepancy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_Stoll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cuckoo%27s_Egg_(book)

kiwi_2005 · 03-10-10, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fincuan

So you didn't check the date, did you Castout?

Good read that one.

ahh now i get it!

Castout · 03-10-10, 08:06 PM

How old is the writer 10 year old kid?

A bit paranoid about the free flow of information on the internet I must say!

Internet could be a nightmare to a dictatorship regime. The regime in Iran cracked down the internet sites being used by the anti Ahmadinejad activists, China filtered it and such and such

I guess the writer comes from a dictatorship regime or friend of one either that or he's a 75 year old person who is too old to understand PC and the internet.

frau kaleun · 03-10-10, 10:41 PM

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Then there's cyberbusiness. We're promised instant catalog shopping—just point and click for great deals. We'll order airline tickets over the network, make restaurant reservations and negotiate sales contracts. Stores will become obselete. So how come my local mall does more business in an afternoon than the entire Internet handles in a month?

Fast forward a few years and... check, check, check, check.

We still have four malls within 20 minutes of where I live. The MOST successful is on the brink of filing for bankruptcy. One I don't bother to go to any more since it's going downhill fast. The next nearest one is not so bad, but still way more empty space than ten years ago, lots of smaller storefronts changing hands on a regular basis, and the variety and "name recognition" of its retailers is on a steep decline. The closest has had maybe 5-6 owners since it was built 25 ago and has changed hands at least 3 times in the past five years. It's 80% empty and the only thing keeping it open is one fairly decent Kohl's and big sports/outdoor supply store that has no real competition anywhere around here. Guys I know from local police/fire depts say they are on "unofficial alert" over the possibility of arson taking the place down, and not because some firebug kid finds a dark corner to play with matches in.

It's really a shame, because there are some things I prefer to see and handle before I make a purchase, but overall I wouldn't trade internet shopping for anything.

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the network is missing a most essential ingredient of capitalism: salespeople.

And most people probably consider that its number one attraction, lol.

razark · 03-10-10, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

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the network is missing a most essential ingredient of capitalism: salespeople.

And most people probably consider that its number one attraction, lol.

Nah, it's got salespeople, too.

They email me every day, but the filter sends most of it to the trash.

frau kaleun · 03-10-10, 11:07 PM

I need a spam filter for department store salespeople. Oh wait, I think that's called a taser. Probably not a good idea.

I'd also like a magnet that will pull them in from wherever they disappear to on the rare occasions when I actually need one.

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Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	The Internet? Bah! Ever been wrong, I mean, really, really wrong? Article from the last century, check the date. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web Last edited by Onkel Neal; 03-10-10 at 08:34 PM.

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razark Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,731 Downloads: 393 Uploads: 12	Oh my. That was a fun read. Thanks. __________________ "Never ask a World War II history buff for a 'final solution' to your problem!"

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Castout Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 4,794 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 6	How old is the writer 10 year old kid? A bit paranoid about the free flow of information on the internet I must say! Internet could be a nightmare to a dictatorship regime. The regime in Iran cracked down the internet sites being used by the anti Ahmadinejad activists, China filtered it and such and such I guess the writer comes from a dictatorship regime or friend of one either that or he's a 75 year old person who is too old to understand PC and the internet. __________________ My blog: http://exposingsingapore.wordpress.com/

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Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,054 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Hahaha

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Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	So you didn't check the date, did you Castout? Good read that one.

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frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	I need a spam filter for department store salespeople. Oh wait, I think that's called a taser. Probably not a good idea. I'd also like a magnet that will pull them in from wherever they disappear to on the rare occasions when I actually need one.