Can you run out of compressed air?

LGN1 · 03-07-10, 03:45 AM

Hi,

outdated and wrong information

see here for a discussion:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=174225

Does anyone know the amount of compressed air each sub has and whether one can mod this? And also how much compressed air is lost when blowing ballast? I looked at the sim files and could not find any entries about compressed air

Is it hardcoded?

Cheers, LGN1

evan82 · 03-07-10, 03:56 AM

In sim. dat file is only setting for compressed air dial. Main value is hardcoded. I use XXI sub, and some time ago I tried to change ability to stay underwater longer for this boat. I mean CO2 settings. I real life XXI was able to stay underwater for about 60 to 80 hours [3 -4] days. In game this time is not so long enough, but this is also hardcoded I think.

Rubini · 03-07-10, 07:23 PM

The compressed air is at least useful and can finish when in use for blow ballast emergence uses. Nothing more. In sh3 it is not used when you dive or surface for example.

Sag75 · 03-07-10, 07:32 PM

hi, I'm not so sure, I see it decreasing a little bit when I surface (hitting S) from PD or deeper, but probably it happens at 100% of realism.

Rubini · 03-07-10, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sag75

hi, I'm not so sure, I see it decreasing a little bit when I surface (hitting S) from PD or deeper, but probably it happens at 100% of realism.

Can you take a look at this again? If so we can analise it and make it really usefull in a tactical side.

Sag75 · 03-07-10, 09:31 PM

Well it's weird, I post now some images here.

I was at 0 speed. I ordered 75 meters, sub went at that depth without using compressed air. At 75 meters I ordered Surface (S), sub went to surface without consuming air.. but only at surface, compressed air decreased a little bit as you can see in the 3th image. After a while it was recharged. It happened even at speed (5 kts), but once at surface the compressed air went down with minor extent. Compressed air doesn't change if I change my depth without going to surface.

1. At surface, 0 kts.

2. 75meters ordered, air doesn't change during descent.

3. Surface ordered. Only once at surface air diminished a little.

So, I don't know how to interpret it. Air should decrease as I hit S at depth. And air should decrease when I change my depth going up without surfacing, but it doesn't. So, is it a bug? is it an unfinished stuff? Is there a fix?

03-07-10, 03:45 AM	#1
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	Can you run out of compressed air? Hi, outdated and wrong information see here for a discussion: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=174225 Does anyone know the amount of compressed air each sub has and whether one can mod this? And also how much compressed air is lost when blowing ballast? I looked at the sim files and could not find any entries about compressed air Is it hardcoded? Cheers, LGN1 Last edited by LGN1; 10-14-10 at 03:51 PM.

03-07-10, 03:56 AM	#2
evan82 Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 555 Downloads: 197 Uploads: 12	In sim. dat file is only setting for compressed air dial. Main value is hardcoded. I use XXI sub, and some time ago I tried to change ability to stay underwater longer for this boat. I mean CO2 settings. I real life XXI was able to stay underwater for about 60 to 80 hours [3 -4] days. In game this time is not so long enough, but this is also hardcoded I think. __________________ MY MODS - evan82's XXI Water StreamVIIB War Skin IIevan82's XXI Skin... Last edited by evan82; 03-07-10 at 10:03 AM.

03-07-10, 07:23 PM	#3
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	The compressed air is at least useful and can finish when in use for blow ballast emergence uses. Nothing more. In sh3 it is not used when you dive or surface for example. __________________ One gamer's must-have mod is another gamer's waste of time. -Sailor Steve

03-07-10, 07:32 PM	#4
Sag75 XO Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 424 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	hi, I'm not so sure, I see it decreasing a little bit when I surface (hitting S) from PD or deeper, but probably it happens at 100% of realism. __________________ Betasom - XI Gruppo Sommergibili Atlantici http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php

03-07-10, 09:31 PM	#6
Sag75 XO Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 424 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	Well it's weird, I post now some images here. I was at 0 speed. I ordered 75 meters, sub went at that depth without using compressed air. At 75 meters I ordered Surface (S), sub went to surface without consuming air.. but only at surface, compressed air decreased a little bit as you can see in the 3th image. After a while it was recharged. It happened even at speed (5 kts), but once at surface the compressed air went down with minor extent. Compressed air doesn't change if I change my depth without going to surface. 1. At surface, 0 kts. 2. 75meters ordered, air doesn't change during descent. 3. Surface ordered. Only once at surface air diminished a little. So, I don't know how to interpret it. Air should decrease as I hit S at depth. And air should decrease when I change my depth going up without surfacing, but it doesn't. So, is it a bug? is it an unfinished stuff? Is there a fix? __________________ Betasom - XI Gruppo Sommergibili Atlantici http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php