[REQ] 6 Dials / 4 Gauges

CCIP · 03-02-10, 06:06 PM

So, any takers for bringing back a couple of staple SH features for easy access?

What I mean by is re-introducing the basic, round dials for telegraph/speed, heading/rudder, and depth (shallow/deep); and gauges for fuel, battery, compressed air and CO2. These should be no more (and preferably less) than a click away and located in the game's main screen. Otherwise floating, pop-out or zoom-in - all would be just fine for me.

I would really, really like to see these tools back - I personally don't really have any huge gripes with the new interface besides this.

I haven't quite the graphics prowess to design these properly. I know it's not much, but I'd be happy to sponsor a Subsim mug or shirt for the first person who can make this [REQ] into [REL]

Sailor Steve · 03-02-10, 06:57 PM

When you say "6-Dials" I think of FLB_Sales's 'Simfeeling' mod, where nothing is on the screen at all - it's all a slideout. I still use it, and I'm still waiting for something like it for SH4.

I have a feeling I'll be waiting a very long time.

CCIP · 03-02-10, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

When you say "6-Dials" I think of FLB_Sales's 'Simfeeling' mod, where nothing is on the screen at all - it's all a slideout. I still use it, and I'm still waiting for something like it for SH4.

Yeah, I had slideout dials in mind too, but honestly SH4's pop-out dials worked just as well for me.

TECHNICALLY, it's not complicated to program these in - it never required any hacking of complex file formats, and was determined purely by menu config files + simple graphics. And I suspect the new menu editor may (or may not) make this a lot easier. It's just that it requires someone with a little bit of experience in creating game menu graphics and that's definitely not my forte.

Sailor Steve · 03-02-10, 07:04 PM

Nor mine.

But, are you aware of my Ship Names mod for SH3 Commander?

CCIP · 03-02-10, 07:15 PM

Yes I am and it's pretty fabulous

For several reasons though, SHIV+OM rather than SHIII+GWX has been my main steed lately. I sorely miss Commander from that, but c'est la vie I suppose...

As for the dials, I've seen many excellent solutions actually, not just the pop-out dials. Pop-out mechanisms in general are great, but if anything, I think SHIV's solution of a bottom bar + tabs for officer commands + floating alerts at the top is basically a good standard. SHV at the moment has a lot of good features, many I'd want to keep, but the main control layout is not as intiutive. Course changes especially are a little bit of a pain at the moment - I really grew to rely on the compass for them, and it's just flat out not there anymore (instead you have to mess around with the mini-map now to plot the course, or to use the "heading to view" shortcut to get what you want).

Sailor Steve · 03-02-10, 07:22 PM

That's not good to hear. It would be nice if you could just type in the desired course (only way to ever get it exactly), but the compass is still good to have.

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Originally Posted by CCIP

SHIV+OM rather than SHIII+GWX has been my main steed lately. I sorely miss Commander from that, but c'est la vie I suppose...

My feelings exactly. I was dividing my time equally between 3 and 4, because I run several careers simultaneously. But an SH4 Commander would have been so nice, especially since SH4 makes it vastly easier to have many different countries for each model without increasing the load times.

gutted · 03-02-10, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

It's just that it requires someone with a little bit of experience in creating game menu graphics and that's definitely not my forte.

Exactly.

I poked about and saw that alot of the resources are still there.. we just need to plug them back in. I kinda toyed around with the menu editor.. but like you said, it's going to take someone with experience in UI modding (and knows how everything is suposed to interact) to make sense of the thing.

I was able to figure out how to get a graphic on screen and move it around, but how to make it tie into something i dunno.

Highbury · 03-02-10, 10:13 PM

Just want to second this request.

Overall I am content with SHV, but how on earth they thought a U-Boat would not need to see it's heading is beyond me. Couple that with no "Set heading to XXX" command and I am left scratchin my head...

This is not just a visual mod request, it is necessary for game functionality IMO.

UberMatz · 03-02-10, 11:19 PM

It's as if many aspects of the GUI have been dumbed down. I'd love to have a pop-out compass and other gauges.

03-02-10, 06:06 PM	#1
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	[REQ] 6 Dials / 4 Gauges So, any takers for bringing back a couple of staple SH features for easy access? What I mean by is re-introducing the basic, round dials for telegraph/speed, heading/rudder, and depth (shallow/deep); and gauges for fuel, battery, compressed air and CO2. These should be no more (and preferably less) than a click away and located in the game's main screen. Otherwise floating, pop-out or zoom-in - all would be just fine for me. I would really, really like to see these tools back - I personally don't really have any huge gripes with the new interface besides this. I haven't quite the graphics prowess to design these properly. I know it's not much, but I'd be happy to sponsor a Subsim mug or shirt for the first person who can make this [REQ] into [REL] __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-02-10, 06:57 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	When you say "6-Dials" I think of FLB_Sales's 'Simfeeling' mod, where nothing is on the screen at all - it's all a slideout. I still use it, and I'm still waiting for something like it for SH4. I have a feeling I'll be waiting a very long time. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-02-10, 07:04 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Nor mine. But, are you aware of my Ship Names mod for SH3 Commander? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-02-10, 07:15 PM	#5
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Yes I am and it's pretty fabulous For several reasons though, SHIV+OM rather than SHIII+GWX has been my main steed lately. I sorely miss Commander from that, but c'est la vie I suppose... As for the dials, I've seen many excellent solutions actually, not just the pop-out dials. Pop-out mechanisms in general are great, but if anything, I think SHIV's solution of a bottom bar + tabs for officer commands + floating alerts at the top is basically a good standard. SHV at the moment has a lot of good features, many I'd want to keep, but the main control layout is not as intiutive. Course changes especially are a little bit of a pain at the moment - I really grew to rely on the compass for them, and it's just flat out not there anymore (instead you have to mess around with the mini-map now to plot the course, or to use the "heading to view" shortcut to get what you want). __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-02-10, 10:13 PM	#8
Highbury The Old Man Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: 51.557, -0.102 Posts: 1,311 Downloads: 177 Uploads: 0	Just want to second this request. Overall I am content with SHV, but how on earth they thought a U-Boat would not need to see it's heading is beyond me. Couple that with no "Set heading to XXX" command and I am left scratchin my head... This is not just a visual mod request, it is necessary for game functionality IMO.

03-02-10, 11:19 PM	#9
UberMatz Sailor man Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 50 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	It's as if many aspects of the GUI have been dumbed down. I'd love to have a pop-out compass and other gauges.