Type VII.....

cappy70 · 02-16-10, 03:05 PM

"Best of the Best",,,just quoting 'Top Ten' subs on Military channel today.

Sailor Steve · 02-16-10, 03:15 PM

Yep. That's why they lost so many of them.

V.C. Sniper · 02-16-10, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Yep. That's why they lost so many of them.

frau kaleun · 02-16-10, 04:30 PM

But there were more of them to start with. Because they were so awesome.

YOU WILL PRY MY LOVE OF THE VIIC FROM MY COLD DEAD... er... HEART!

I think they specified the VIIC in the show he's referring to. IIRC what put it over the top was its (in their opinion) superb combination of so many of the things they considered when doing the rankings (maneuverability, durability, etc.) and most especially what they referred to as the "fear factor."

Meaning that, in its heyday during the early years of the BoA, it inspired more fear in more people (justifiably or otherwise) than any other class of sub before or since. And they were talking not just about the military and merchant seamen but the civilian population as well.

(But of course if they're going to do a show like that for popular consumption you also have to consider the fact that when you say "submarine" the image that pops into the head of the average person is mostly likely a u-boat and probably a VIIC.)

SteamWake · 02-16-10, 04:38 PM

To quote Mr. Churchill 'Our greatest fear'

Jimbuna · 02-16-10, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

To quote Mr. Churchill 'Our greatest fear'

In the only theatre of war that existed from the day war was declared until the day of the surrender announcement (war with Germany).

Hartmann · 02-16-10, 06:26 PM

VII was a good submarine but lack of firepower, range, and endurance.

Also there was a decisive difference compared with U.S submarines, Radar

, they can know the position heading and range of enemy planes making the things a lot easier .

to sum up german submarines were good in hardware while us submarines were very good in electronics and enough good in hardware ,24 torpedos in iternal reloads is a big difference

frau kaleun · 02-16-10, 06:32 PM

Oh, please. Don't let's muddy the water with facts.

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frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	But there were more of them to start with. Because they were so awesome. YOU WILL PRY MY LOVE OF THE VIIC FROM MY COLD DEAD... er... HEART! I think they specified the VIIC in the show he's referring to. IIRC what put it over the top was its (in their opinion) superb combination of so many of the things they considered when doing the rankings (maneuverability, durability, etc.) and most especially what they referred to as the "fear factor." Meaning that, in its heyday during the early years of the BoA, it inspired more fear in more people (justifiably or otherwise) than any other class of sub before or since. And they were talking not just about the military and merchant seamen but the civilian population as well. (But of course if they're going to do a show like that for popular consumption you also have to consider the fact that when you say "submarine" the image that pops into the head of the average person is mostly likely a u-boat and probably a VIIC.)

02-16-10, 06:32 PM	#8
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	Oh, please. Don't let's muddy the water with facts.