Republican Wins Massachusetts senate race

August · 01-19-10, 09:50 PM

My state, about as blue as they get, just elected a Republican to Ted Kennedys former senate seat.

Can you believe it?

GoldenRivet · 01-19-10, 09:52 PM

http://www.azstarnet.com/article_2c8...cc4c002e0.html

In an epic upset in liberal Massachusetts, Republican Scott Brown rode a wave of voter anger to defeat Democrat Martha Coakley in a U.S. Senate election Tuesday that left President Barack Obama's health care overhaul in doubt and marred the end of his first year in office. The loss by the once-favored Coakley for the seat that the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy held for nearly half a century signaled big political problems for the president's party this fall when House, Senate and gubernatorial candidates are on the ballot nationwide.

Wake up Queen Pelosi... this country is not your play thing to impose your pet projects upon, get your resume in order you socialist scum bag.

Onkel Neal · 01-19-10, 09:52 PM

Oh. Wow. A republican took ol Kennedy's seat?? That's odd.

GoldenRivet · 01-19-10, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Oh. Wow. A republican took ol Kennedy's seat?? That's odd.

cant imagine why one of the most liberal states in the union would vote in a republican...

Hmmmm lets wonder.

some of those democrats on the hill are so far out of touch with the people of this country that they are all going to be hitting the bricks next year.

Its really too bad that the progressives have so deeply infiltrated and used the Democtrat party so badly... Obama and Pilosi have pushed and pushed and pushed against the majority... apparently neither of them knows how the system works LOL

01-19-10, 10:01 PM

Now that's cool!

Torvald Von Mansee · 01-19-10, 10:03 PM

These threads should be merged.

SteamWake · 01-19-10, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Oh. Wow. A republican took ol Kennedy's seat?? That's odd.

OMG a soda out the nose moment...

CaptainHaplo · 01-19-10, 11:20 PM

Torvald - while the Dems tried to play this off as yet another class battle (as you seem to indicate you believe) - this was more about the huge DEBT we as a nation have incurred, and the plans to continue adding to such debt with things like cap and trade, health care reform, etc.

It also doesn't help that the Dems are giving exemptions to their supporters in legislation (such as the unions not having to have their health care taxed for an extra 5 years, but everyone else will as scheduled), deciding who is going to get hit with "recover the TARP money" fees - namely banks - whether they took TARP money or not (which is inherently bogus to take from someone claiming your recovering the money you gave them, when you know they never took it) - as well as letting some groups - like Fannie and Freddie, as well as other groups in other sectors - like GM, not have to pay it back. That alone is like saying that well, Ford didn't take any bailout money, but they have to pay it back anyway....

The reality is that the majority of the people - of EVERY stripe politically - are by and large concerned with the direction of the country. This isn't isolated, other recent elections have shown the same thing. The problem isn't that people are standing up for this or that group - the problem is that the Democrats have been in control and claiming they are standing up for the "little guy" - but the reality is they are instead more concerned about their own power and agenda to even listen to the little guy. Ultimately, they have looked at the people and said "we know you don't like what we are doing, but shut up and sit down because we know what we are doing and your opinions dont matter" - or as Pelosi said - "We hear them, but it won't change anything". That is what has caused this backlash, and make no mistake, this is a HUGE blow to the Democratic party as a whole.

MothBalls · 01-19-10, 11:42 PM

Brings a whole new meaning to 'paint the town red'. The Dems are about to paint the entire country red.

nikimcbee · 01-20-10, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

OMG a soda out the nose moment...

Hopefully this will be the high water mark for socialism in the US

Jianaran · 01-20-10, 01:42 AM

Oh dear, yet more fearmongering at work...
I must say, I still find it pretty funny how what the US calls "left-wing" is the rest of the world's right, and as soon as a party tries to act left-of-centre, they're branded socialist. It'd be almost funny, if you guys weren't the biggest economy in the world.

Anyway, I hope for America's sake that Obama can get the health-care through and keep it up before he and his party are torn apart by the misinformed public. The fact is, America's healthcare system as it currently stands is one of the most expensive and least effective ones in the civilised world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_...ry_comparisons
Look at those charts: The US is clearly spending a lot more than most other people. Look at the link: in general, they're getting less for it.
(there was a better diagram in the latest National Geographic, but I don't have a scanner and I can't find it online)

Whilst Obama certainly isn't perfect, he seems from here (australia) to be the best president you guys have had for some time. I also greatly respect him for moving away from the ultraconservative political view that America seems to have fallen into in recent decades. As I said earlier, trying to fix healthcare isn't socialism (which apparently = communism, which is apparently a very bad thing), it's merely a return to sanity.

GoldenRivet · 01-19-10, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August

My state, about as blue as they get, just elected a Republican to Ted Kennedys former senate seat.

Can you believe it?

yes, August... yes i can.

the people of Massachusetts might lean hard left... but like i told my wife at dinner, they aren't stupid.

August · 01-19-10, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

yes, August... yes i can.

the people of Massachusetts might lean hard left... but like i told my wife at dinner, they aren't stupid.

Nor do they like being taken for granted. Just ask the British.

Torvald Von Mansee · 01-19-10, 10:02 PM

Nice to see the little people standing up for the wealthy and corporations.

GoldenRivet · 01-19-10, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August

Nor do they like being taken for granted. Just ask the British.

Hear, hear!

Patriotism lives in the northeast today my friend

its not that many republicans dont feel we need health care overhaul... a lot of republicans DO feel that way.

but the socialized, gazillion dollar legacy that is doomed to failure is not the answer.

Tonight, our people on the hill got an appetizer of things to come.

i love this too...

WELL PLAYED!!!!!!!!

01-19-10, 09:50 PM	#1
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,226 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The changing of the tide? My state, about as blue as they get, just elected a Republican to Ted Kennedys former senate seat. Can you believe it? __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

01-19-10, 09:52 PM	#2
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Republican Wins Massachusetts senate race http://www.azstarnet.com/article_2c8...cc4c002e0.html In an epic upset in liberal Massachusetts, Republican Scott Brown rode a wave of voter anger to defeat Democrat Martha Coakley in a U.S. Senate election Tuesday that left President Barack Obama's health care overhaul in doubt and marred the end of his first year in office. The loss by the once-favored Coakley for the seat that the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy held for nearly half a century signaled big political problems for the president's party this fall when House, Senate and gubernatorial candidates are on the ballot nationwide. Wake up Queen Pelosi... this country is not your play thing to impose your pet projects upon, get your resume in order you socialist scum bag. __________________

01-19-10, 09:52 PM	#3
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Oh. Wow. A republican took ol Kennedy's seat?? That's odd. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

01-19-10, 10:03 PM	#6
Torvald Von Mansee Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CA4528 Posts: 1,693 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	These threads should be merged. __________________ "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you" - Leon Trotsky

01-19-10, 11:20 PM	#8
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Torvald - while the Dems tried to play this off as yet another class battle (as you seem to indicate you believe) - this was more about the huge DEBT we as a nation have incurred, and the plans to continue adding to such debt with things like cap and trade, health care reform, etc. It also doesn't help that the Dems are giving exemptions to their supporters in legislation (such as the unions not having to have their health care taxed for an extra 5 years, but everyone else will as scheduled), deciding who is going to get hit with "recover the TARP money" fees - namely banks - whether they took TARP money or not (which is inherently bogus to take from someone claiming your recovering the money you gave them, when you know they never took it) - as well as letting some groups - like Fannie and Freddie, as well as other groups in other sectors - like GM, not have to pay it back. That alone is like saying that well, Ford didn't take any bailout money, but they have to pay it back anyway.... The reality is that the majority of the people - of EVERY stripe politically - are by and large concerned with the direction of the country. This isn't isolated, other recent elections have shown the same thing. The problem isn't that people are standing up for this or that group - the problem is that the Democrats have been in control and claiming they are standing up for the "little guy" - but the reality is they are instead more concerned about their own power and agenda to even listen to the little guy. Ultimately, they have looked at the people and said "we know you don't like what we are doing, but shut up and sit down because we know what we are doing and your opinions dont matter" - or as Pelosi said - "We hear them, but it won't change anything". That is what has caused this backlash, and make no mistake, this is a HUGE blow to the Democratic party as a whole. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

01-19-10, 10:01 PM	#5
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Now that's cool!

01-19-10, 11:42 PM	#9
MothBalls Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,012 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Brings a whole new meaning to 'paint the town red'. The Dems are about to paint the entire country red.

01-20-10, 01:42 AM	#11
Jianaran Nub Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Oh dear, yet more fearmongering at work... I must say, I still find it pretty funny how what the US calls "left-wing" is the rest of the world's right, and as soon as a party tries to act left-of-centre, they're branded socialist. It'd be almost funny, if you guys weren't the biggest economy in the world. Anyway, I hope for America's sake that Obama can get the health-care through and keep it up before he and his party are torn apart by the misinformed public. The fact is, America's healthcare system as it currently stands is one of the most expensive and least effective ones in the civilised world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_...ry_comparisons Look at those charts: The US is clearly spending a lot more than most other people. Look at the link: in general, they're getting less for it. (there was a better diagram in the latest National Geographic, but I don't have a scanner and I can't find it online) Whilst Obama certainly isn't perfect, he seems from here (australia) to be the best president you guys have had for some time. I also greatly respect him for moving away from the ultraconservative political view that America seems to have fallen into in recent decades. As I said earlier, trying to fix healthcare isn't socialism (which apparently = communism, which is apparently a very bad thing), it's merely a return to sanity.

01-19-10, 10:02 PM	#14
Torvald Von Mansee Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CA4528 Posts: 1,693 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Nice to see the little people standing up for the wealthy and corporations. __________________ "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you" - Leon Trotsky