Torpedoes too deep. Help?

jerm138 · 01-05-10, 10:36 PM

Ok... here's the situation:

I'm perfectly set up to launch an attack on a lone minesweeper. 1000 yards away, 90 degrees off the bow, almost 0 degree gyro angle. (obviously it's not THIS exact, but pretty close)

Here's the problem:
No matter what I do, the torpedoes slide right under the ship.
According to the ship recognition guide, the draft is 9 feet. I saved the scenario so that I could try it many times, and nothing seems to work.

I've tried different torpedo depths. It will only go down to a little under 5, and I've tried up to 9, and a couple places in between. I've tried both slow and fast torpedoes. I've tried both impact and influence switches.

My aim is just about dead on. I switch to external camera and follow the fish. They pass a several feet under the ship every time and keep right on going.

I'm using V1.5 with TMO 1.9 and RSRD.

This is starting to annoy me. Any tips would be appreciated.

It also brings up another question: What factors do you consider when deciding on fast or slow torpedo, and impact or influence switches?

Steiger · 01-05-10, 10:59 PM

Early war torpedoes run deep. The US Torpedo scandal was HUGE. Look it up on wikipedia or something. They usually run about 10 feet deep, so if the target has a 9' keel, you have an almost 0 chance of hitting her.

jerm138 · 01-05-10, 11:09 PM

I had heard a little about the torpedo scandal before. I thought it was more about the switches/detonators.

I didn't know the game was modeled to that level of detail to make the torpedoes change with time.

So... I won't bother with anything that has <10 ft draft for a couple years, I guess.

Kinda bummed... I've been on patrol for over a month and this was the first real target (besides 2 destroyers that spotted me and harassed me all night), and it looked like an easy kill. I got 8 sampan kills so far though!

And I learned an important lesson: Just because a ship is going 5 kts when you launch, doesn't mean it'll keep going that slow once the fish are in the water. Note to self: lead slow-moving ships a little if they can go faster...

Sailor Steve · 01-06-10, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerm138

I had heard a little about the torpedo scandal before. I thought it was more about the switches/detonators.

Nah, it was about the captains being bad shots. Then they figured out that every single one couldn't be a bad shot. The some of the captains had their torpedo guys disable the magnetic detonators, with the idea that when they were set very shallow they would pre-det, and when they weren't they wouldn't go off at all. Y'know, if they're running too deep...

Then they figured out that the mags really weren't reliable and started to fix them. Then they figured out that the contact pistols were having problems too. Then the mags still had problems, so the new gun in town, Lockwood, decided to do some tests, using nets to catch them.

And sure enough, the magnetic pistols needed fixing, the contact pistols needed fixing, the depth mechanisms needed fixing, and even when they were all fixed the Australia-based boats continued to have problems. Seems the man in charge there, Christie, was responsible for the development of some of that stuff, and of course it couldn't be his fault, so he refused to use the 'fixed' fish.

And so it goes...

Fish40 · 01-06-10, 08:11 AM

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jerm138 · 01-06-10, 09:28 AM

I looked through the ship recognition guide and saw that there are a LOT of ships with drafts in the 9-10 foot range.

I'm all for historical accuracy, but I don't want to have to bypass half the targets because my torpedoes will go too deep.

Is there any way to turn this "feature" off? I'm all for realism and historical accuracy, but this I'd like to at least get to TRY to shoot at a target. In real life they had to deal with not showering for days but I don't intend to skip those in the interest of historical accuracy either.

G2B · 01-05-10, 11:14 PM

When attacking Destroyers minesweepers and such shallow draft ships I get in as close as possible and use the fast setting with influence. Usually influance setting gets triggered by rough seas but not always once in a while they just go off.

Keep in mind if you have a Destroyer running down on you fire between 600 and 1000 yards any closer than 550 yards and torps won't arm. Oh one other thing if at all possible fire down her keel gives the fish more time to go off

01-05-10, 10:36 PM	#1
jerm138 Watch Officer Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 332 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Torpedoes too deep. Help? Ok... here's the situation: I'm perfectly set up to launch an attack on a lone minesweeper. 1000 yards away, 90 degrees off the bow, almost 0 degree gyro angle. (obviously it's not THIS exact, but pretty close) Here's the problem: No matter what I do, the torpedoes slide right under the ship. According to the ship recognition guide, the draft is 9 feet. I saved the scenario so that I could try it many times, and nothing seems to work. I've tried different torpedo depths. It will only go down to a little under 5, and I've tried up to 9, and a couple places in between. I've tried both slow and fast torpedoes. I've tried both impact and influence switches. My aim is just about dead on. I switch to external camera and follow the fish. They pass a several feet under the ship every time and keep right on going. I'm using V1.5 with TMO 1.9 and RSRD. This is starting to annoy me. Any tips would be appreciated. It also brings up another question: What factors do you consider when deciding on fast or slow torpedo, and impact or influence switches? __________________

01-05-10, 10:59 PM	#2
Steiger Planesman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 187 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Early war torpedoes run deep. The US Torpedo scandal was HUGE. Look it up on wikipedia or something. They usually run about 10 feet deep, so if the target has a 9' keel, you have an almost 0 chance of hitting her. __________________

01-05-10, 11:09 PM	#3
jerm138 Watch Officer Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 332 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	I had heard a little about the torpedo scandal before. I thought it was more about the switches/detonators. I didn't know the game was modeled to that level of detail to make the torpedoes change with time. So... I won't bother with anything that has <10 ft draft for a couple years, I guess. Kinda bummed... I've been on patrol for over a month and this was the first real target (besides 2 destroyers that spotted me and harassed me all night), and it looked like an easy kill. I got 8 sampan kills so far though! And I learned an important lesson: Just because a ship is going 5 kts when you launch, doesn't mean it'll keep going that slow once the fish are in the water. Note to self: lead slow-moving ships a little if they can go faster... __________________

01-06-10, 09:28 AM	#6
jerm138 Watch Officer Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 332 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	I looked through the ship recognition guide and saw that there are a LOT of ships with drafts in the 9-10 foot range. I'm all for historical accuracy, but I don't want to have to bypass half the targets because my torpedoes will go too deep. Is there any way to turn this "feature" off? I'm all for realism and historical accuracy, but this I'd like to at least get to TRY to shoot at a target. In real life they had to deal with not showering for days but I don't intend to skip those in the interest of historical accuracy either. __________________

01-05-10, 11:14 PM	#7
G2B XO Join Date: May 2009 Location: Guam, I think Posts: 420 Downloads: 80 Uploads: 0	When attacking Destroyers minesweepers and such shallow draft ships I get in as close as possible and use the fast setting with influence. Usually influance setting gets triggered by rough seas but not always once in a while they just go off. Keep in mind if you have a Destroyer running down on you fire between 600 and 1000 yards any closer than 550 yards and torps won't arm. Oh one other thing if at all possible fire down her keel gives the fish more time to go off __________________

01-06-10, 08:11 AM	#5
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	Read all about it here: http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu7Rgi0...6_exploder.htm