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Old 01-04-10, 12:14 AM   #1
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Default Fake Christian is fake

http://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/12...ch-of-poverty/
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Old 01-04-10, 02:04 AM   #2
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The very embodiment of the reason other peoples hate Americans. I can't believe anyone takes him (or is it Him?) seriously. One can only hope there is a real God and eternal justice will be served.
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Old 01-04-10, 08:04 AM   #4
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It's free market in action, isn't it. He sells what people pay for. Don't blame him alone - also blame the people. Where there are winners, there must be loosers paying for the winner's golden cup, so I fear market regulation is out of the question here.
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Old 01-04-10, 08:49 AM   #5
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The very embodiment of the reason other peoples hate Americans. I can't believe anyone takes him (or is it Him?) seriously. One can only hope there is a real God and eternal justice will be served.
Um, Americans aren't some collective all having the same views.

That aside, many American right wingers (which I assure you, this guy almost certainly is) in the U.S. call themselves Christian but don't seem to act it.

Example: there is a disturbingly well-selling series of books in the United States called "Left Behind," which can be described as Christian fantasy/American dominionist (or whatever). It has made its allegedly Christian authors fabulously wealthy, yet when asked why he doesn't give any of his money to charity, one of them responded: "Do you know how much I already pay in taxes?" Apparently he has never read Matthew 19:24.
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...And the pope lives like a king.
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...And the pope lives like a king.
Obviously George Bush's fault...
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shhhhh....today it's always Obama's fault......but don't tell anyone....


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Yeah those guys are freaks. I wonder how so many people can still fall for that crap.
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Um, Americans aren't some collective all having the same views.

That aside, many American right wingers (which I assure you, this guy almost certainly is) in the U.S. call themselves Christian but don't act it.

Example: there is a disturbingly well-selling series of books in the United States called "Left Behind," which can be described as Christian fantasy/American dominionist (or whatever). It has made its allegedly Christian authors fabulously wealthy, yet when asked why he doesn't give any of his money to charity, one of them responded: "Do you know how much I already pay in taxes?" Apparently he has never read Matthew 19:24.
Never meant to imply we were a collective, but these types make us all smell funny.

I believe the Pope is essentially the king of the Vatican which is sovereign territory. Not anywhere near the same thing as fleecing people in a bid to buy their way to heaven.
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Never meant to imply we were a collective, but these types make us all smell funny.

I believe the Pope is essentially the king of the Vatican which is sovereign territory. Not anywhere near the same thing as fleecing people in a bid to buy their way to heaven.
Ah!! I thought you were one of them foreign types that tend to paint Americans w/a broad brush (<- ironicalish!!). I've always found it bizarre that people who come off as otherwise enlightened and intelligent have this intellectual Achilles's heel, e.g., a flamingly liberal, Ivy League-educated Jewish associate of mine who thinks everyone has certainly inalienable rights except ONE demographic group!! Can you guess the group?

As far as people trying to gain some omnipotent & omniscient Being's favor, do they REALLY think He couldn't see through them and give them their just rewards?
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To which extent has this guy really a legion of followers giving him money? This and other similar scumbags are just so plain absurd that I always thought they must be simply a cover to clean "dirty" money coming form other delictive sources.
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Old 01-04-10, 11:01 AM   #12
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yet when asked why he doesn't give any of his money to charity, one of them responded: "Do you know how much I already pay in taxes?" Apparently he has never read Matthew 19:24.
Well, as the good Lord said, "Render unto Caesar... and let the rest fend for themselves."
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Well, as the good Lord said, "Render unto Caesar... and let the rest fend for themselves."
Actually I believe the full quote was: "Render there unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. But when it cometh to things neither Caesar's nor God's, feeleth free to write them off; for yea, they be deductible."


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Actually I believe the full quote was: "Render there unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. But when it cometh to things neither Caesar's nor God's, feeleth free to write them off; for yea, they be deductible."
"And accept thee cash from thy flock, and suffer them to use Visa and MasterCard also, for the multitudes surely have more credit than cash and the finance charges will accrue to them alone. Money orders also shalt thee accept. But beware thee of the personal check, for verily I say unto you that sometimes it is of rubber devised."
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