Sunken ships still heard on Sonar?

12-27-09, 05:26 PM

Hi all,

Been having some fun after re-installing SH4 and finding some Jap Convoys to raid.

However, I've been noticing that sunken ships can still be detected on Sonar - although I've not quite heard them, the green light indicating "something" comes on when I point at the wreck (I use the sonar whenever it lags out due to a convoy spawning near me, as my sonarman is utterly hopeless at actually hearing things, as many will probably know!).

Is this normal, is it a bug, is there a fix? I suppose a sinking/recently sunken ship might make some noise, but this seems to go on until I sail away far enough for SH4 to (I assume) remove the model (>20nm I believe). Quite annoying when I'm sat in a choke point and I can't work out of I'm listening to a wreck or a far-off convoy!

Using V1.5, TMO, RSRDC and EAX.

Torplexed · 12-27-09, 05:33 PM

I remember in SH3 that sunken ships in shallow water used to rattle on and on until I left the scene. Could be the same thing?

Jten · 12-27-09, 06:58 PM

I chased a similar type of contact not too long ago and it lead me to the flotsom left from a previous sinking. Some time had passed but I probably had not gotten +20 NM away. I think it's the flotsom making the contact but the SO is the smart one in this situation because he kept reporting "No Sound Contacts". Not so much as a bug but just how the sim works. If a game model (including wreakage) is in the water it will get a green light on the hydrophones. What it needs is a sound effect of things bumping together and splashing as they ride the waves so players who work their own 'phones can tell the different. Probably just a matter of attaching a sound effect file to the model of the flotsom.

'players who work their own 'phones'...does that sound a little kinky?

vickers03 · 12-27-09, 07:03 PM

Quote:

'players who work their own 'phones'...does that sound a little kinky?

sounds good, there can never be enough sounds underwater that irritates the player

Armistead · 12-27-09, 11:34 PM

You can hear sunken ships for sometime, atleast until they hit the vanishing point. If in shallow water, even up to 200ft they can hit bottom and sit there as long as you're in the zone. You can even hear exposions as they go down.

You can basically hear everything on sonar you would normally hear, including following your torps to the target, deck gun shells hitting ships, ect...

12-27-09, 11:42 PM

yep i can confirm they do rattle on at the bottom if its too shallow for them to vanish

i love my exterior cam and spend as much time cruising around above and below the water

you will also hear sonar sounds from the engines running on any ship even if the engines arent running so dont expect stopped ships to be silent

im not sure but docked ships might be the exception to that

12-27-09, 05:26 PM	#1
Danny252 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Sunken ships still heard on Sonar? Hi all, Been having some fun after re-installing SH4 and finding some Jap Convoys to raid. However, I've been noticing that sunken ships can still be detected on Sonar - although I've not quite heard them, the green light indicating "something" comes on when I point at the wreck (I use the sonar whenever it lags out due to a convoy spawning near me, as my sonarman is utterly hopeless at actually hearing things, as many will probably know!). Is this normal, is it a bug, is there a fix? I suppose a sinking/recently sunken ship might make some noise, but this seems to go on until I sail away far enough for SH4 to (I assume) remove the model (>20nm I believe). Quite annoying when I'm sat in a choke point and I can't work out of I'm listening to a wreck or a far-off convoy! Using V1.5, TMO, RSRDC and EAX.

12-27-09, 05:33 PM	#2
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I remember in SH3 that sunken ships in shallow water used to rattle on and on until I left the scene. Could be the same thing?

12-27-09, 06:58 PM	#3
Jten Mate Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 55 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	I chased a similar type of contact not too long ago and it lead me to the flotsom left from a previous sinking. Some time had passed but I probably had not gotten +20 NM away. I think it's the flotsom making the contact but the SO is the smart one in this situation because he kept reporting "No Sound Contacts". Not so much as a bug but just how the sim works. If a game model (including wreakage) is in the water it will get a green light on the hydrophones. What it needs is a sound effect of things bumping together and splashing as they ride the waves so players who work their own 'phones can tell the different. Probably just a matter of attaching a sound effect file to the model of the flotsom. 'players who work their own 'phones'...does that sound a little kinky?

12-27-09, 11:34 PM	#5
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	You can hear sunken ships for sometime, atleast until they hit the vanishing point. If in shallow water, even up to 200ft they can hit bottom and sit there as long as you're in the zone. You can even hear exposions as they go down. You can basically hear everything on sonar you would normally hear, including following your torps to the target, deck gun shells hitting ships, ect...

12-27-09, 11:42 PM	#6
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	yep i can confirm they do rattle on at the bottom if its too shallow for them to vanish i love my exterior cam and spend as much time cruising around above and below the water you will also hear sonar sounds from the engines running on any ship even if the engines arent running so dont expect stopped ships to be silent im not sure but docked ships might be the exception to that