DiD ; why this one hurts so much

Wulfmann · 12-16-09, 01:18 PM

It is 1943 and my Type IXC has returned from patrolling the far south shipping lanes between Montevideo and Capetown (Hmm, I have actually been to both of those cities IRL)
57K tons and I head home.
Next patrol and I try the route between Brazil and Freetown Africa. at 37K I save the game run another 48 hours at 2048TC and save again at the end of July.
Next day I go to start and CTD. So, I try the one save before and CTD.

I put it aside to look at the Doc file later (never have been able to fix it that way but WTH) and play some CoDWaW that evening.

Next day while online on my other (this) PC I decide to fire up the game PC and run a test.
Starting at the last patrol (erasing the 37K tons i earned) I decided to run out into the Atlantic, make a couple saves, exit the game, restart the PC and see what happens.
I wondered if I had used a save name already used the patrol before (I save like this P24S1, P24S2) so If I mistakenly forgot this was the next patrol and reused the last numbered one maybe that was why CTD.
It is just a test and i will restart that patrol from base but I just wanted to test the name I had saved.
I quickly routed the U-Boat through Lorient and out to sea and then swicthed over to my email stuff.
The sound was still on the SH3 PC and heard mein Gott and switched over to see U-boat sunk by collision.

Now, this was just a test but I have a rule about these things. It does not matter how why or any excuse DiD even in a case like this.
I would always feel I cheated if I made any exception so this career is over but , man, what a sad way to end it.
Had I (carefully) plotted the course like I always do (around the slow escort) this would not have happened but alas, I did it and that is that.

Back to 1939 all over again!

Wulfmann

Draka · 12-16-09, 02:02 PM

Bum rap - but I highly admire you sticking to yer guns. Better luck on the next one.

Damo · 12-16-09, 05:35 PM

Personally, I would have kept on with the career as you had decided previously that this trip was for testing purposes. That was a premeditated decision, so it's not like you started a patrol, died and said, 'oh, we'll call that a test then...'. I also admire you for upholding the DiD tradition but feel you didn't deserve this one, as the game made you do it!!

Of course, if you think there's a possibility that you would have continued the patrol as normal if the save had worked, then yes, you should be dead. It's a bit of a paradox that one...

Enjoy the 'happy times'.

Sailor Steve · 12-16-09, 08:09 PM

I agree that you should have continued the career. If I save in shallow water and reloading gets me flashing lights, overwhelming damage and a Death Screen for no apparent reason, the the game has cheated, not me.

Dead Is Dead means getting killed legitimately, whether through the enemy's good tactics or my own stupidity, but loading the wrong file? I too admire your strictness to your code, but if you didn't load it up intending to play, yew wuz robbed!

Wulfmann · 12-18-09, 10:10 AM

My careers will not be like Barry Bonds' with an asterisk.

I understand the logic but here is why DiD even when I run a test.

Live is not fair.
Sometimes we sink a ship and the game does not credit us.

Sometimes in real life U-Boats sank by collision with a reef a friendly ship or running a simple test.

Fact is I did not set a careful course so I am responsible for a test even if it was to examine why I could not load my saves. I do believe that was caused by me reusing a same save name from the previous patrol, another fault of mine that led to CTD that led to a test that led to improper plotting that led to the demise of my U-Boat.

If someone else did this and continued i would not trash that decision as it has merit. But, this is my standard.
Absolutely positively DID no if ands or buts about it.

However, I have to say this one bites like no other but its on me.

Mein U-Boat ist Gestorben!!!

Wulfmann

IanC · 12-18-09, 10:35 AM

Yikes, and I thought I was a perfectionist.

12-16-09, 01:18 PM	#1
Wulfmann Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,010 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	DiD ; why this one hurts so much It is 1943 and my Type IXC has returned from patrolling the far south shipping lanes between Montevideo and Capetown (Hmm, I have actually been to both of those cities IRL) 57K tons and I head home. Next patrol and I try the route between Brazil and Freetown Africa. at 37K I save the game run another 48 hours at 2048TC and save again at the end of July. Next day I go to start and CTD. So, I try the one save before and CTD. I put it aside to look at the Doc file later (never have been able to fix it that way but WTH) and play some CoDWaW that evening. Next day while online on my other (this) PC I decide to fire up the game PC and run a test. Starting at the last patrol (erasing the 37K tons i earned) I decided to run out into the Atlantic, make a couple saves, exit the game, restart the PC and see what happens. I wondered if I had used a save name already used the patrol before (I save like this P24S1, P24S2) so If I mistakenly forgot this was the next patrol and reused the last numbered one maybe that was why CTD. It is just a test and i will restart that patrol from base but I just wanted to test the name I had saved. I quickly routed the U-Boat through Lorient and out to sea and then swicthed over to my email stuff. The sound was still on the SH3 PC and heard mein Gott and switched over to see U-boat sunk by collision. Now, this was just a test but I have a rule about these things. It does not matter how why or any excuse DiD even in a case like this. I would always feel I cheated if I made any exception so this career is over but , man, what a sad way to end it. Had I (carefully) plotted the course like I always do (around the slow escort) this would not have happened but alas, I did it and that is that. Back to 1939 all over again! Wulfmann __________________ "The right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed upon, if only to prevent tyranny in government" Thomas Jefferson,; Constitutional debates

12-16-09, 05:35 PM	#3
Damo Captain Join Date: May 2009 Location: Forever stuck in Data folder... Posts: 482 Downloads: 259 Uploads: 0	Personally, I would have kept on with the career as you had decided previously that this trip was for testing purposes. That was a premeditated decision, so it's not like you started a patrol, died and said, 'oh, we'll call that a test then...'. I also admire you for upholding the DiD tradition but feel you didn't deserve this one, as the game made you do it!! Of course, if you think there's a possibility that you would have continued the patrol as normal if the save had worked, then yes, you should be dead. It's a bit of a paradox that one... Enjoy the 'happy times'. __________________ The owl and the pussycat went to sea in a beautiful pea-green boat. It only took one T1 eel to convince that boat not to float.

12-16-09, 08:09 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I agree that you should have continued the career. If I save in shallow water and reloading gets me flashing lights, overwhelming damage and a Death Screen for no apparent reason, the the game has cheated, not me. Dead Is Dead means getting killed legitimately, whether through the enemy's good tactics or my own stupidity, but loading the wrong file? I too admire your strictness to your code, but if you didn't load it up intending to play, yew wuz robbed! __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-18-09, 10:10 AM	#5
Wulfmann Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,010 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	My careers will not be like Barry Bonds' with an asterisk. I understand the logic but here is why DiD even when I run a test. Live is not fair. Sometimes we sink a ship and the game does not credit us. Sometimes in real life U-Boats sank by collision with a reef a friendly ship or running a simple test. Fact is I did not set a careful course so I am responsible for a test even if it was to examine why I could not load my saves. I do believe that was caused by me reusing a same save name from the previous patrol, another fault of mine that led to CTD that led to a test that led to improper plotting that led to the demise of my U-Boat. If someone else did this and continued i would not trash that decision as it has merit. But, this is my standard. Absolutely positively DID no if ands or buts about it. However, I have to say this one bites like no other but its on me. Mein U-Boat ist Gestorben!!! Wulfmann __________________ "The right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed upon, if only to prevent tyranny in government" Thomas Jefferson,; Constitutional debates

12-16-09, 02:02 PM	#2
Draka Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 256 Downloads: 322 Uploads: 0	Bum rap - but I highly admire you sticking to yer guns. Better luck on the next one.

12-18-09, 10:35 AM	#6
IanC Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Running silent and deep Posts: 902 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Yikes, and I thought I was a perfectionist.