GWX is a yawner.

HMCS · 11-27-09, 11:14 PM

Boring, boring dull dull dull.

I just returned from a patrol in March of 41; it rained the whole time; one whole month of rain with several days of fog for a treat. Nothing to shoot at. Realism 97%. The incessant radio messages that had nothing to do with my boat or patrol only serves to exercise my right index finger which has to keep punching the + key on the number pad to keep the TC going.

I'm going back to the Pacific.

GoldenRivet · 11-27-09, 11:22 PM

So long.

I dont suppose you would perhaps play 3 or 4 more patrols?

and give it a chance?

you could always install the "radio lite mod" and "weather fix" patches for GWX3 you know.

or better yet just go drink your milk in the Pacific

here... the "realism" crowd enjoys the bitter taste of whiskey.

Thats the primary difference between SH3 and SH4

Sh3 is a simulation of real life gains, losses and frustrations

SH4... well... its a game.

JScones · 11-27-09, 11:57 PM

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and give it a chance?

What's to give a chance? That's just how it is. If the OP wants ships-a'plenty, then maybe he should go back to stock SH3?

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you could always install the "radio lite mod"...

WB's "Mission Orders Lite" for GWX3 is, IMHO, a godsend.

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and "weather fix" patches for GWX3 you know.

Where's this?

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here... the "realism" crowd enjoys the bitter taste of whiskey.

Enjoying a wee dram (well, actually, not so wee) as I write.

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SH4... well... its a game.

Hmmm...why do I suddenly feel like jimbuna?

GoldenRivet · 11-28-09, 12:08 AM

hahaha

I am not sure where the weather fix mod is... all i know is that it was highly recommended when GWX3 was released.

Commander Gizmo · 11-28-09, 12:54 AM

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hahaha

I am not sure where the weather fix mod is... all i know is that it was highly recommended when GWX3 was released.

If you have it on hand in your install, would you care to share?

Sailor Steve · 11-28-09, 01:22 AM

This may be what you're looking for:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...do=file&id=631

But I think a version of this is actually in GWX. The problem is part of stock SH3 as well.

On the other hand, maybe this will be more to your liking:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...do=file&id=424

On the other other hand I play SH4 UBM with Operation Monsun, as well as GWX, and love both for completely different reasons.

I don't think of GWX as a yawner at all. I guess I'm just not so easily bored.

LukeFF · 11-28-09, 02:01 PM

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Thats the primary difference between SH3 and SH4

Sh3 is a simulation of real life gains, losses and frustrations

SH4... well... its a game.

Oh, so exactly what, then, have people like me, Ducimus, Lurker, et al, been doing for the past year and more?

SeaWolf U-57 · 11-28-09, 02:18 PM

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Oh, so exactly what, then, have people like me, Ducimus, Lurker, et al, been doing for the past year and more?

I wonder what you think is the point of posting here just to throw wood on the fire.
has this discussion yet again got to turn into a Us verses Them thread, I.E. GWX verses SH4.
I am quite sure that most of the members here are tired of reading the squabbles about this surely the matter had come to a nice end cant it just be left like that.

Damo · 11-28-09, 02:27 PM

I'd just like to say that my comment about the thread being deleted was wrong. Of course everybody should be allowed to express their opinion.

What I should have said was that the thread should be 'disregarded' as it was made by somebody who doesn't see beyond the surface and seems unwilling to try. Instant gratification is NOT what GWX is about but patience is a virtue and that patience will and is rewarded in so many different ways. The experience is never the same for individual people, how many people have never seen a Battleship, let alone sink one? It's that uncertainty that makes the experience unique for all of us and I'm sorry that HMCS has had a bad first outing, but he's looking for the quick fix which won't happen.

I worried that newcomers to the game and GWX would see his post and be turned off of GWX, hence my deletion comment. I will happily retract that statement but the remainder of my post will stand.

Besides, if those new guys read the whole thread they'll learn what HMCS hasn't so maybe he inadvertantly did GWX a great service.......

tomfon · 11-28-09, 05:14 PM

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I'd just like to say that my comment about the thread being deleted was wrong. Of course everybody should be allowed to express their opinion.

What I should have said was that the thread should be 'disregarded' as it was made by somebody who doesn't see beyond the surface and seems unwilling to try.

Thats a nice one.

P.S. Debates like this one usually involve the GWX supermod ; thats the basis of the dispute. I maybe mistaken (hope so) but i've never seen a similar discussion by those who play basically the NYGM or WAC supermod (though i've seen ''WAC supporters'' and ''GWX supporters'' fighting - thats an another case). I'm trying to understand why but i can't. Surely, i don't believe that GWX has ''sworn enemies'' or/and ''fanatic enthusiasts'' or sthg. This would mean that GWX has become a psychosis. If this was true then the phrase ''SH3, a very addictive game'' should make us worry. Since i don't like psychology i'll leave it for the end. Till then i'll keep wondering whats going on (?).

Sailor Steve · 11-28-09, 05:56 PM

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P.S. Debates like this one usually involve the GWX supermod ; thats the basis of the dispute. I maybe mistaken (hope so) but i've never seen a similar discussion by those who play basically the NYGM or WAC supermod (though i've seen ''WAC supporters'' and ''GWX supporters'' fighting - thats an another case).

That's because you haven't been around long enough. Back in 2005 Beery put out the first supermod - Real U-Boat. People complained about the changes he'd made, sure, but they also complained about things he hadn't changed. Trust me, NYGM and WAC and even SH3 Commander have had their fair share of "**** ate my cat and ruined gaming for me!" GWX has just been the most used mod, so it's the one that garnered the most attention of late.

SeaWolf U-57 · 11-28-09, 06:16 PM

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Thats a nice one.

P.S. Debates like this one usually involve the GWX supermod ; thats the basis of the dispute. I maybe mistaken (hope so) but i've never seen a similar discussion by those who play basically the NYGM or WAC supermod (though i've seen ''WAC supporters'' and ''GWX supporters'' fighting - thats an another case). I'm trying to understand why but i can't. Surely, i don't believe that GWX has ''sworn enemies'' or/and ''fanatic enthusiasts'' or sthg. This would mean that GWX has become a psychosis. If this was true then the phrase ''SH3, a very addictive game'' should make us worry. Since i don't like psychology i'll leave it for the end. Till then i'll keep wondering whats going on (?).

It seems that the phenomenon that is the silent hunter series evokes strong feelings about the method of game play used.
For what it is worth I think GWX is the most widely used mod and in being so has made it the most easily targeted Supermod.
Most who play SH3 love it to death and the makers of it defend it to the last against any criticism. and because of it there was not the great rush to change over from SH3 to SH4 as expected. I think this is what started the clashes between GWX and SH4 users.
There is no getting away from the fact there is a great divide between the users of the two Games and this will continue on even with the release of SH5 coming soon.
I guess it will then be SH4 against SH5 or if SH5 turns out to be a flop back to SH3 verses the rest.

JU_88 · 11-28-09, 02:29 PM

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Oh, so exactly what, then, have people like me, Ducimus, Lurker, et al, been doing for the past year and more?

@ LukeFF, Id imagine that GR was refering to Stock SH4, I doubt he intended to discredit the immense amount of work you guys have done for the sim.

msalama · 11-29-09, 05:35 AM

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SH4... well... its a game.

SH4 with RFB & RSRDC is as much a sim as is GWX, i.e. they're both incredible. SH3 and SH4 in stock config are, OTOH, both just games.

Me? Playing SH4 & OM at the moment, which _again_ is an incredible subsim

So the moral of the story, I guess, is that once you install a realism-oriented supermod you'll never go stock again...

Ducimus · 11-30-09, 10:31 AM

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Thats the primary difference between SH3 and SH4

Sh3 is a simulation of real life gains, losses and frustrations

SH4... well... its a game.

Oh really? Hate to burst your bubble, but SH3 is no more a simulation then SH4.

EDIT: Ducimus, one day if we meet personally you might concede that I did you a favor by editing this post. If you still think otherwise, I'll pay the beers anyway -Hitman-

11-27-09, 11:14 PM	#1
HMCS Sonar Guy Join Date: May 2005 Location: Squaresville, daddy-O. Posts: 394 Downloads: 186 Uploads: 0	GWX is a yawner. Boring, boring dull dull dull. I just returned from a patrol in March of 41; it rained the whole time; one whole month of rain with several days of fog for a treat. Nothing to shoot at. Realism 97%. The incessant radio messages that had nothing to do with my boat or patrol only serves to exercise my right index finger which has to keep punching the + key on the number pad to keep the TC going. I'm going back to the Pacific. __________________ "Turning enemy ships into marine habitat since 1986!" Mods Loaded:TMO 2.2, RSRDC, MaxOptics, Strategic Map Symbols, Stop The Shouting OR: RFB, RSRDC, Maxoptics, SCAF, Strategic Map Symbols and the sanity-saving "stop the shouting".

11-27-09, 11:22 PM	#2
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	So long. I dont suppose you would perhaps play 3 or 4 more patrols? and give it a chance? you could always install the "radio lite mod" and "weather fix" patches for GWX3 you know. or better yet just go drink your milk in the Pacific here... the "realism" crowd enjoys the bitter taste of whiskey. Thats the primary difference between SH3 and SH4 Sh3 is a simulation of real life gains, losses and frustrations SH4... well... its a game. __________________

11-28-09, 12:08 AM	#4
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	hahaha I am not sure where the weather fix mod is... all i know is that it was highly recommended when GWX3 was released. __________________

11-28-09, 01:22 AM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	This may be what you're looking for: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...do=file&id=631 But I think a version of this is actually in GWX. The problem is part of stock SH3 as well. On the other hand, maybe this will be more to your liking: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...do=file&id=424 On the other other hand I play SH4 UBM with Operation Monsun, as well as GWX, and love both for completely different reasons. I don't think of GWX as a yawner at all. I guess I'm just not so easily bored. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

11-28-09, 02:27 PM	#9
Damo Captain Join Date: May 2009 Location: Forever stuck in Data folder... Posts: 482 Downloads: 259 Uploads: 0	I'd just like to say that my comment about the thread being deleted was wrong. Of course everybody should be allowed to express their opinion. What I should have said was that the thread should be 'disregarded' as it was made by somebody who doesn't see beyond the surface and seems unwilling to try. Instant gratification is NOT what GWX is about but patience is a virtue and that patience will and is rewarded in so many different ways. The experience is never the same for individual people, how many people have never seen a Battleship, let alone sink one? It's that uncertainty that makes the experience unique for all of us and I'm sorry that HMCS has had a bad first outing, but he's looking for the quick fix which won't happen. I worried that newcomers to the game and GWX would see his post and be turned off of GWX, hence my deletion comment. I will happily retract that statement but the remainder of my post will stand. Besides, if those new guys read the whole thread they'll learn what HMCS hasn't so maybe he inadvertantly did GWX a great service....... __________________ The owl and the pussycat went to sea in a beautiful pea-green boat. It only took one T1 eel to convince that boat not to float.