Screen refresh rate problem!

onelifecrisis · 10-19-09, 10:16 AM

For some reason Crysis (and only Crysis) sets my TV to 50Hz. Windows and all other games run at 60Hz (with the same resolution settings) but Crysis goes to 50Hz which gives me a headache.

I've tried RivaTuner's "force refresh rate" option but that did nothing. I've used RivaTuner to create a new monitor driver .inf file, and installed that driver as my monitor driver, but still nothing, so I switched back to the original "Generic PnP Monitor" driver.

PowerStrip tells me it is unable to access my TV's EDID, so I assume that Crysis can't either, in which case the TV's EDID is not causing the problem. PowerStrip can access my "stored EDID" (presumably that's the one in the registry under Local Machine > System > something > Enum > whatever) and that also reports a maximum refresh rate of 75Hz, but it mistakenly reports a maximum resolution of 1280x1024... however this is something that even Crysis seems to know to be nonsense since Crysis will happily switch to any resolution up to 1080p (at 50Hz

).

MonInfo confirms what I already know - my TV can run all of it's various resolutions at either 50Hz or 60Hz, and some at 75Hz. However, the 50Hz modes are listed under "EIA/CEA-861 Information" whereas the 60Hz modes are not (they are listed under "CE video data (timings supported)" whatever that means).

My (nVidia) graphics card DVI-out is connected to my TV's HDMI-input via a DVI-HDMI converter. I'm running Vista in case that matters.

I just want to get the Crysis refresh rate to be 60Hz like it is in all my other games (at the same 1080p resolution)!! Help!?

onelifecrisis · 10-19-09, 02:44 PM

It gets stranger. When I run Crysis in DX9 mode, it runs at 60Hz! Back to DX10, back to 50Hz! WTF?

Arclight · 10-19-09, 03:54 PM

What driver version?

I've had similar issues with Win7 desktop, seems the OS simply doesn't detect it propely (can't read EDID for some reason). As the drivers progressed out of beta, it got better, but varies issues pop up now and then, also with my TV (which is a CRT though).

You could try to find an .ini from Crysis that details your res settings and force it to 60Hz there, but I'm not sure that's a proper solution.

onelifecrisis · 10-19-09, 03:57 PM

The latest, 191.07 IIRC.
Crysis has no refresh rate settings, not even in the cvars (command console).
My earlier attempts at finding info on this, by googling things like "crysis refresh rate hdmi" and similar, were fruitless... but now I'm googling "dx10 refresh rate" and finding loads of relevant info. Seems there's a lot of people with DX10 refresh rate problems, and not just in Crysis.

Arclight · 10-19-09, 04:26 PM

Yeah, I've had issues with DX10 as well, though for me it was always "zooming"; the outer borders are rendered off the screen. I guess I can fix it by adjusting my monitor settings, but then I would have to revert after quiting again.

TBH, if a game can't even render properly, imho it's not worth the effort (Dawn of Discovery and Clear Sky).

Bad news is, if you have an issue relating to DX10, there's nothing you can do but revert to DX9 (no biggie, really

). God knows I never found an answer.

onelifecrisis · 10-20-09, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arclight

Yeah, I've had issues with DX10 as well, though for me it was always "zooming"; the outer borders are rendered off the screen.

Do you mean overscan?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arclight

Bad news is, if you have an issue relating to DX10, there's nothing you can do but revert to DX9 (no biggie, really

). God knows I never found an answer.

I've not had any luck changing the Crysis refresh rate, but I did find the cause of my headache - it was actually caused by the motion blur, not the refresh rate. I disabled it and voila - no more headache! Strange that other games with motion blur didn't give me a headache

but from what I've read, Crysis' motion blur is "special"

Anyway thanks for the info.

10-19-09, 10:16 AM	#1
onelifecrisis Maverick Modder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: England Posts: 3,895 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 3	Screen refresh rate problem! For some reason Crysis (and only Crysis) sets my TV to 50Hz. Windows and all other games run at 60Hz (with the same resolution settings) but Crysis goes to 50Hz which gives me a headache. I've tried RivaTuner's "force refresh rate" option but that did nothing. I've used RivaTuner to create a new monitor driver .inf file, and installed that driver as my monitor driver, but still nothing, so I switched back to the original "Generic PnP Monitor" driver. PowerStrip tells me it is unable to access my TV's EDID, so I assume that Crysis can't either, in which case the TV's EDID is not causing the problem. PowerStrip can access my "stored EDID" (presumably that's the one in the registry under Local Machine > System > something > Enum > whatever) and that also reports a maximum refresh rate of 75Hz, but it mistakenly reports a maximum resolution of 1280x1024... however this is something that even Crysis seems to know to be nonsense since Crysis will happily switch to any resolution up to 1080p (at 50Hz ). MonInfo confirms what I already know - my TV can run all of it's various resolutions at either 50Hz or 60Hz, and some at 75Hz. However, the 50Hz modes are listed under "EIA/CEA-861 Information" whereas the 60Hz modes are not (they are listed under "CE video data (timings supported)" whatever that means). My (nVidia) graphics card DVI-out is connected to my TV's HDMI-input via a DVI-HDMI converter. I'm running Vista in case that matters. I just want to get the Crysis refresh rate to be 60Hz like it is in all my other games (at the same 1080p resolution)!! Help!? __________________ Freedom of speech - priceless. For everything else there's Mastercard. Last edited by onelifecrisis; 10-19-09 at 10:39 AM.

10-19-09, 02:44 PM	#2
onelifecrisis Maverick Modder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: England Posts: 3,895 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 3	It gets stranger. When I run Crysis in DX9 mode, it runs at 60Hz! Back to DX10, back to 50Hz! WTF? __________________ Freedom of speech - priceless. For everything else there's Mastercard.

10-19-09, 03:54 PM	#3
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	What driver version? I've had similar issues with Win7 desktop, seems the OS simply doesn't detect it propely (can't read EDID for some reason). As the drivers progressed out of beta, it got better, but varies issues pop up now and then, also with my TV (which is a CRT though). You could try to find an .ini from Crysis that details your res settings and force it to 60Hz there, but I'm not sure that's a proper solution. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

10-19-09, 03:57 PM	#4
onelifecrisis Maverick Modder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: England Posts: 3,895 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 3	The latest, 191.07 IIRC. Crysis has no refresh rate settings, not even in the cvars (command console). My earlier attempts at finding info on this, by googling things like "crysis refresh rate hdmi" and similar, were fruitless... but now I'm googling "dx10 refresh rate" and finding loads of relevant info. Seems there's a lot of people with DX10 refresh rate problems, and not just in Crysis. __________________ Freedom of speech - priceless. For everything else there's Mastercard.

10-19-09, 04:26 PM	#5
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Yeah, I've had issues with DX10 as well, though for me it was always "zooming"; the outer borders are rendered off the screen. I guess I can fix it by adjusting my monitor settings, but then I would have to revert after quiting again. TBH, if a game can't even render properly, imho it's not worth the effort (Dawn of Discovery and Clear Sky). Bad news is, if you have an issue relating to DX10, there's nothing you can do but revert to DX9 (no biggie, really ). God knows I never found an answer. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.