Steer course 000 - and KEEP IT!

Rosencrantz · 10-07-09, 05:15 AM

One thing I hope we'll see coming with SH5 is helmsman who can actually keep the given course. I know it can be a tricky thing to keep the exact course in RL, especially in bad weather or when the helmsman is not used to the ship or familiar with his work. However I don't like the SH3/4 "feature" where the boat is usually taking a slight curve either to stb or port in case you are not using waypoints. That's not real! Especially when you are cheasing a target the captain has a lot of other things to do than babysitting the steersman.

Greetings,
-RC-

martes86 · 10-07-09, 07:16 AM

The captain doesn't babysit the helmsman, the navigator or the chief engineer/1st officer do that.

Sailor Steve · 10-07-09, 08:43 AM

That has always been one of my complaints about SH3 as well. The boat might not end up where it should due to tidal drift and currents, but the helmsman will hold the course he's given, or they'll find a new helmsman. Giving a heading of 160, going to high TC and watching it change to 180 and then to 210 is just not right.

SteamWake · 10-07-09, 09:21 AM

You know I have never noticed this.

Then again I hardley ever travel long distances without a course plotted on the nav map.

10-07-09, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

That has always been one of my complaints about SH3 as well. The boat might not end up where it should due to tidal drift and currents, but the helmsman will hold the course he's given, or they'll find a new helmsman. Giving a heading of 160, going to high TC and watching it change to 180 and then to 210 is just not right.

well guys it could be thats the only way they could find to simulate tidal drift and currents.

remember, being a video game these things tend to be absolute in many cases so building in the error factor isnt always easy and i assumed this was the reason that the error was there.

if you cant make the road drift off coarse then make the car drift off coarse

looney · 10-07-09, 01:25 PM

It was (and still is) impossible to stay on a straight course... normally they would give a general direction and de helmsman would keep that course. But the actual course could be way off depending on drift and location on the world. That is why the compass rose has 8 points, no more are needed for navigation.

SteamWake · 10-07-09, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by looney

It was (and still is) impossible to stay on a straight course... normally they would give a general direction and de helmsman would keep that course. But the actual course could be way off depending on drift and location on the world. That is why the compass rose has 8 points, no more are needed for navigation.

My compass has 360 points

Seeadler · 10-07-09, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

...but the helmsman will hold the course he's given, or they'll find a new helmsman.

remember in SH3 there is no man who take care of course

for SH5 the devs found him

FIREWALL · 10-07-09, 02:13 PM

And the guy standing behind him is, touching him inappropriately.

No wonder he can't stay on course.

10-07-09, 05:15 AM	#1
Rosencrantz Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 758 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Steer course 000 - and KEEP IT! One thing I hope we'll see coming with SH5 is helmsman who can actually keep the given course. I know it can be a tricky thing to keep the exact course in RL, especially in bad weather or when the helmsman is not used to the ship or familiar with his work. However I don't like the SH3/4 "feature" where the boat is usually taking a slight curve either to stb or port in case you are not using waypoints. That's not real! Especially when you are cheasing a target the captain has a lot of other things to do than babysitting the steersman. Greetings, -RC-

10-07-09, 08:43 AM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	That has always been one of my complaints about SH3 as well. The boat might not end up where it should due to tidal drift and currents, but the helmsman will hold the course he's given, or they'll find a new helmsman. Giving a heading of 160, going to high TC and watching it change to 180 and then to 210 is just not right. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-07-09, 09:21 AM	#4
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	You know I have never noticed this. Then again I hardley ever travel long distances without a course plotted on the nav map. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

10-07-09, 02:13 PM	#9
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	And the guy standing behind him is, touching him inappropriately. No wonder he can't stay on course. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

10-07-09, 07:16 AM	#2
martes86 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Colourful Seville - Spain Posts: 971 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	The captain doesn't babysit the helmsman, the navigator or the chief engineer/1st officer do that.

10-07-09, 01:25 PM	#6
looney Commodore Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sneek, The Netherlands Posts: 635 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	It was (and still is) impossible to stay on a straight course... normally they would give a general direction and de helmsman would keep that course. But the actual course could be way off depending on drift and location on the world. That is why the compass rose has 8 points, no more are needed for navigation.