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Old 07-21-09, 04:26 PM   #1
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[REQ] - Habbakuk MOD

I would like to humbly submit to the talented members of this community the idea of modding the largest ship of WWII that almost was.A 2,000,000 ton 2000+ foot long carrier made of ice with a 50 foot thick hull.Not to mention your own air force, an insane amount of deck and flack guns,but also a weird ice cannon system that would make Mr. Freeze blush.The view from the bridge alone would make the mod worth it.Here's the link for the write up on it.



http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007...t-carrier.html

This thing would be the Terror of the North Atlantic.Thank you community for your time and great mods.

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Old 07-21-09, 10:47 PM   #2
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I thought I would include this link to show the test results of this substance to show that this substance would act according to design.



I hope this video shows the possibilities of this design and what this ship could have done if it had been constructed.
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Old 07-21-09, 11:08 PM   #3
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another video

here is more information

regarding the project.
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Old 07-22-09, 05:57 AM   #4
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Well, a magnetic torpedo might have a problem. Still, from the shotgun test, an impact torpedo hit would have been devastating. And what kind of repair procedures do you use on ice?

Would have been a great sub magnet though!
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Old 07-22-09, 06:52 AM   #5
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The axis would have attached a large spearfishing hook and towrope, to a torp. containing no explosives.
Then the sub(s) would have towed the ship to the equator, effectively sinking it..

Was an ice-cream machine built into the plans..
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Old 07-22-09, 10:14 AM   #6
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Were they going to make the planes out of ice too?
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Old 07-25-09, 12:40 PM   #7
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Well, a magnetic torpedo might have a problem. Still, from the shotgun test, an impact torpedo hit would have been devastating. And what kind of repair procedures do you use on ice?

Would have been a great sub magnet though!

i actually saw it on the history channel the other day.

funny thing is, it could still be a what-if idea today except engine heat and jet exhaust would melt the flight decks and hangers.

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Old 07-25-09, 08:07 PM   #8
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i actually saw it on the history channel the other day.

funny thing is, it could still be a what-if idea today except engine heat and jet exhaust would melt the flight decks and hangers.
Cool.Haven't seen the whole special myself yet.They could definitely build it today and I sometimes wonder if the reason you can't seem to find much technical data on the boat is for that reason.I've never been able to find out much specs on things like damage repair procedure plans,the ice gun designs,how the refrigeration system was setup,electrical power demands/wiring,ect. As far As heat goes With today's modern materials they definitely could find a way to deal with jet exhaust.The original plan called for surface coatings(tar and other materials I think) to be on the boat but mostly on top to keep sunlight off,to insulate the ice,and for traction for the planes and crew.I you noticed in the film of the small versions construction there were men painting black material on the outside ice in areas with brushes.You would not want planes landing on bare ice in pitching seas in the dark with cross winds.Also I think the plan was to mount all the diesel engines above decks in a raised area to insulate it from the ship as well as running the waste heat side of the refrigeration to crew compartments above decks.Since everything below decks had to stay cold the ship had the electric motors outside the hull and motors above.Like a large scale fleet boat kind of.It would have been hard on the crew.Half the time in a warm bunk and half the time in a meat locker.
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Old 07-25-09, 12:44 AM   #9
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...ice cannon system...
and how exactly do you plan to mod this so called "ice kanon"? would it just turn my type VIIA uboat into a floating freezer? and btw, it's called "pycrete" if anyone hadn't already said it .
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Old 07-25-09, 01:29 AM   #10
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Default I wouldn't even try to mod the ice cannon

The ice cannon was a idea somebody had about using the spray system for hull repair to try and freeze other ships.I don't think it would have had much range at all and most likely would be next to useless but maybe they knew something they weren't telling, who knows.I've never seen any drawing for it or specs and think it was just an idea and no more.They originally thought you could use it freeze the top of an enemy ship by spraying it and hopefully jamming turret rings and freezing hatches shut ultimately causing the ship to capsize from top weight build up.And I'm thinking lightly armed ones at that.Let's face it, if you tried that thing on with a BB it would have blown you out of your shoes before you got one shot off with that thing.It seemed to me to be a complete waste of time because the whole point was using massive air cover to ensure no surface ship or plane could get close enough.Only u-boats could sneak up on it.Also the design called for 40 twin barreled cannons on it.I think the conventional guns would have been the better choice and they had much better range.I think you would have a better chance of getting the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter to work than the ice cannon.And you may be right on the spelling.I have seen it spelled 2 or 3 different ways and I think there are a few different ways the ships name was spelled that I've seen too.But I think the original name was pykrete because it was named after the inventor and the man we have to thank for this madness Geoffrey Pyke.Then again, I may be wrong.

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