Soldier balks at deploying; says Obama isn’t president

[SteamWake]

Someone explain to this guy that it is a volenteer army. You volonteer to join not where to go

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/story/776335.html

[AVGWarhawk]

Cook further states he “would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military actions outside the United States under this President’s command. ... simultaneously subjecting himself to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties.”

He has a point. Personally, I'm not satisfied with the paperwork produced showing citizenship of Obama. I believe I'm not alone.

The interesting part of this, beyond that we may not want the officer to serve after this, is that this may actually require Mr. Obama to release an original birth certificate, iso spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep it supressed.

[Tchocky]

Wow, the Secret Service, FBI, CIA and NSA really dropped the ball on this one.

[Max2147]

I thought American soldiers were supposed to be politically neutral while on duty?

I have a feeling that this particular soldier wouldn't serve under this Commander in Chief even if there were absolutely no legal quesitons surrounding his presidency. The citizenship thing is just an excuse, as it is for most people who bring it up.

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Wow, the Secret Service, FBI, CIA and NSA really dropped the ball on this one.

The State Department would most likely be the culprit here. They handle passports and a birth certificate is required to receive one as a US Citizen. If he needed a US passport.

[geetrue]

Read into this whatever you may ... this is what Bill Clinton had to say on August 4th, 2008 (Bill is also reffered to as bubba)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/08/04/2008-08-04_bill_clinton_given_golden_opportunity_fa.html

"I never was mad at Sen. Obama," Bubba said. "I think everybody's got a right to run for President who qualifies under the Constitution. And I'd be the last person to begrudge anybody their ambition."

They (Mr and Mrs Clinton) were talking about it behind closed doors ...

There has been (so far) no successful law suit tried about the birth certificate for the supreme court to over turn.

P.S. Obama was born August 4, 1961. He is currently 47 years old as of July 2009.

Notice the date Bill Clinton said what he said above ...

I threw my tin hat away ... this is serious stuff

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by CastleBravo

The State Department would most likely be the culprit here. They handle passports and a birth certificate is required to receive one as a US Citizen. If he needed a US passport.

From the PolitiFact article: "If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State's office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies."

It's a bit like the 9/11 hoax/inside job conspiracy theories. There would have to be a lot of people on the inside who at least knew what was going on, and they're not all going to stay silent. Our government is one of the most open, and thus one of the most leaky out there. I mean, one recent President couldn't even keep a blowjob secret. If such a massive crime against our country came from the inside, you'd never be able to keep it a secret.

A lot of different agencies and individuals would have to have been involved in this Obama hoax. Any person who blew the whistle would certainly be handsomely rewarded by the other side. The fact that we haven't heard a whistle means that there almost certainly isn't a whistle to blow.

It's annoying that these things go around, because as the PolitiFact article points out, conspriacy theories cost the government (and thus taxpayers) a lot of money. The TWA 800 investigator says that the conspiracy theories around that investigation cost the public $20 million. And in a lot of cases the people forcing the government to spend that money are the very ones who complain that the government spends too much. Freaking hypocrites.

[geetrue]

Originally Posted by CastleBravo

The interesting part of this, beyond that we may not want the officer to serve after this, is that this may actually require Mr. Obama to release an original birth certificate, iso spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep it supressed.

If there is nothing to hide ... why hide it.

The law at the time did not include the age of his mother at 17 to have a baby to become a legal citizen of the USA

Obama has spent a lot of money to supress it and the other side has spent a lot of money to uncover it.

Here is what Pat Boone has to say about it, yes Pat Boone: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/06/barack-obama-birth-certificate.html

If I have to produce my passport, my driver’s license, my birth certificate, for things like leaving the country and returning, buying and selling and leasing and renting — all the things ordinary citizens are required to do all the time — why then, in the name of decency and equality, and, in the “open” and “transparent” approach to government Obama promised, should our elected leader not do the same?

[mookiemookie]

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...icate-part-ii/

Mr. Obama's college transcripts could also be reveling, since they are also being supressed. On his admission application did he list some other country as his place of birth? Kenya perhaps?

[SteamWake]

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[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

He has a point. Personally, I'm not satisfied with the paperwork produced showing citizenship of Obama. I believe I'm not alone.

You aren't. Even the Supreme court asked for it and he weaseled his way out of that one somehow. Talk about brushing it under the rug!

-S

[Max2147]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

You aren't. Even the Supreme court asked for it and he weaseled his way out of that one somehow. Talk about brushing it under the rug!

-S

And when did the Supreme Court do that?