Only now does Obama pull out the veto pen !

SteamWake · 06-25-09, 03:02 PM

What for you ask? Why defense spending of course.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090625/...ress_defense_1

AVGWarhawk · 06-25-09, 03:27 PM

Hey, that is just great especially when NK said it would nuke our butts if we farted the wrong way.

Man, Obama gets more brilliantly stupid with every pen stroke.

Dowly · 06-25-09, 04:01 PM

cry babies.

Max2147 · 06-25-09, 04:05 PM

Make no mistake, the F-22 and F-35 engine issues aren't defense spending, they're pork barrel projects disguised as defense spending.

Our GOP-appointed Secretary of Defense has already made it very clear what his position is on this. I'd much rather have Robert Gates running our military than Congress. Gates cares about defending our country, Congressmen only care about getting money spent in their districts.

PeriscopeDepth · 06-25-09, 04:15 PM

I'm a huge fan of the F-22 but...

Frankly, our military is beyond bloated anyways. For the most part, they have still not learned to focus on items other than big ticket Cold War era systems. And when they do, they end up with astronomical costs ANYWAYS due to mission creep, contractors' gimmicks, and Congressional pork (read payola all the way around). It needs to be reigned in. This kind of spending is not sustainable in our debtor economy, especially when our military already eclipses every other by several magnitudes.

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Hey, that is just great especially when NK said it would nuke our butts if we farted the wrong way.

Man, Obama gets more brilliantly stupid with every pen stroke.

I think the Pacific Ocean and our own little stock pile of atomic weapons has us covered.

PD

SteamWake · 06-25-09, 05:48 PM

Ill be the first to admit that some of these programs may have been bloated perhaps even unecessary but to veto the entire bill?

There was no problem finding 10's of billions to bail out failing banks and 'stimulate' the economy.

By the way any of you feeling stimulated?

Max2147 · 06-25-09, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Ill be the first to admit that some of these programs may have been bloated perhaps even unecessary but to veto the entire bill?

There was no problem finding 10's of billions to bail out failing banks and 'stimulate' the economy.

By the way any of you feeling stimulated?

The economic data released recently was better than expected, so something's working. The recession will end soon enough. When it does the Dems will say it was all Obama's stimulus package, and the GOP will say it was just the cyclical nature of the economy. As with all things like that, it'll be a combo of both.

As far as the defense spending bill, there's a huge difference between threatening to veto a bill that's being debated and actually vetoing it. It's also not like the military won't get funded if he vetoes it - they'll just send him another package to sign, hopefully without the F-22's and alternate F-35 engines (which is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard).

geetrue · 06-25-09, 06:16 PM

Obama is not the anti-christ ...

He is the anti-defense ...

SteamWake · 06-25-09, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Max2147

The economic data released recently was better than expected, so something's working. The recession will end soon enough. When it does the Dems will say it was all Obama's stimulus package, and the GOP will say it was just the cyclical nature of the economy. As with all things like that, it'll be a combo of both.

As far as the defense spending bill, there's a huge difference between threatening to veto a bill that's being debated and actually vetoing it. It's also not like the military won't get funded if he vetoes it - they'll just send him another package to sign, hopefully without the F-22's and alternate F-35 engines (which is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard).

yea that 10% unemployment rate...

Zachstar · 06-26-09, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Hey, that is just great especially when NK said it would nuke our butts if we farted the wrong way.

Man, Obama gets more brilliantly stupid with every pen stroke.

What advantage does the F-22 have over other fighters in north Korea?

Lets take a brand new fighter and risk many millions being blown to bits just to give the migs no chance to see a missile coming their way?

While I think the ground war will be difficult. The airwar will be a cakewalk. This is not falcon 4.

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,293 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Hey, that is just great especially when NK said it would nuke our butts if we farted the wrong way. Man, Obama gets more brilliantly stupid with every pen stroke. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Ill be the first to admit that some of these programs may have been bloated perhaps even unecessary but to veto the entire bill? There was no problem finding 10's of billions to bail out failing banks and 'stimulate' the economy. By the way any of you feeling stimulated? __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

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geetrue Cold War Boomer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Walla Walla Posts: 2,837 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Obama is not the anti-christ ... He is the anti-defense ... __________________

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Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,056 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	cry babies.

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Max2147 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 714 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Make no mistake, the F-22 and F-35 engine issues aren't defense spending, they're pork barrel projects disguised as defense spending. Our GOP-appointed Secretary of Defense has already made it very clear what his position is on this. I'd much rather have Robert Gates running our military than Congress. Gates cares about defending our country, Congressmen only care about getting money spent in their districts.