New and looking for a mentor

[rfxcasey]

Hi,

I'm new to SH3 and was hoping I could get hooked up with an experienced individual or group that could teach me how to play with the end goal of playing full realism. I currently have the GWX 3.0 Gold mod installed.

[Laufen zum Ziel]

First read the manual (GWX3) it will be a great help. As far as a mentor every forum member is a mentor and more then willing to help. Post any questions on the forum and someone will answer. There are some great SHIII & SHIV mods you can download. I would recommend that you play stock GWX prior to trying mods. JSGM (already in GWX) and Commander are must haves. A lot of modders have their own download sites as well as the Subsim and BTS download sites. Remember there are no stupid questions. We all had to learn someway and most of us learned via Subsim.

Good luck and let us know how you are doing.

[Platapus]

Check out the stickies too.

They are sticky for a reason. NO! not THAT reason

[AVGWarhawk]

Send a PM to Dowly...no wait. Everyone here will help you. Attempt a search of the forums first. If you are still stuck create a new thread.

Welcome aboard

[Hanomag]

Welcome Aboard Herr Kaluen!!!

[cj95]

Any specific questions to start with?

I'm going to presume that some "full realism" options are easier to handle than others.

Things like Limited fuel, Realistic reload time, and Torpedo Duds are pretty simple to implement. Just watch the fuel gague, and if the first torp doesnt work.....well shoot another.

'External Views' are somewhat controversial as some never use them, and some (like me) just like to get cool screenshots with 'em

Probably the hard part is the realistic targeting, and there are going to be 100 different opinions on whats the best way to go about that one.

[Wicked Popsicle]

Originally Posted by Laufen zum Ziel

First read the manual (GWX3) it will be a great help. As far as a mentor every forum member is a mentor and more then willing to help. Post any questions on the forum and someone will answer. There are some great SHIII & SHIV mods you can download. I would recommend that you play stock GWX prior to trying mods. JSGM (already in GWX) and Commander are must haves. A lot of modders have their own download sites as well as the Subsim and BTS download sites. Remember there are no stupid questions. We all had to learn someway and most of us learned via Subsim.

Good luck and let us know how you are doing.

Welcome Aboard. Ah manual shmaual I never needed the manual. I play just great I get to the 2nd patrol and die. So i am fine at this game

[Bummy]

Hello all. I just joined community too and I'm completely newbie on Sub Simulators. I'm glad if i receive help from here if I have something to ask.

I already downloaded GWX 3.0 Gold but seems like it's a bit harder and loading a mission takes nearly 10 minutes longest.. After that it runs smoothly at least.
So should I stay with this or start with "easier"? Is there other essential downloads than GWX and SH Commander?

With what should I begin with? That I could proceed from step to step, not that I read whole 600 pages of GWXs manual and then begin to play after I've read that after few months.
I already read stickied topics and unfortunately link for Community Manual was broken.

Thanks for everyone who helps us.

[WilyPete]

Originally Posted by Bummy

Hello all. I just joined community too and I'm completely newbie on Sub Simulators. I'm glad if i receive help from here if I have something to ask.

I already downloaded GWX 3.0 Gold but seems like it's a bit harder and loading a mission takes nearly 10 minutes longest.. After that it runs smoothly at least.
So should I stay with this or start with "easier"? Is there other essential downloads than GWX and SH Commander?

With what should I begin with? That I could proceed from step to step, not that I read whole 600 pages of GWXs manual and then begin to play after I've read that after few months.
I already read stickied topics and unfortunately link for Community Manual was broken.

Thanks for everyone who helps us.

Stick with GWX 3. Not only that play with full realism from day 1. It's frustrating as hell but the only way in my opinion. Otherwise if you start with "arcade" mode and gradually make it more realistic, you'll be on a never ending learning curve. It's like swimming...start in the paddling pool with arm floaters, take the floaters off and learn to paddle. Then go into the shallow pool with floaters back on...eventually take off the floaters. Then go into the deep end with floaters...etc. By the time you're 50 maybe you can swim unassisted at the seaside. Or...can't swim, get someone to chuck you in at the deep end. You'll learn to swim if you dont want to drown. Job done...you can now go on and have fun swimming.

[Paul Riley]

A very simple and effective swimming philosophy,and it works :rotfl:

[Bummy]

Originally Posted by WilyPete

Stick with GWX 3. Not only that play with full realism from day 1. It's frustrating as hell but the only way in my opinion. Otherwise if you start with "arcade" mode and gradually make it more realistic, you'll be on a never ending learning curve. It's like swimming...start in the paddling pool with arm floaters, take the floaters off and learn to paddle. Then go into the shallow pool with floaters back on...eventually take off the floaters. Then go into the deep end with floaters...etc. By the time you're 50 maybe you can swim unassisted at the seaside. Or...can't swim, get someone to chuck you in at the deep end. You'll learn to swim if you dont want to drown. Job done...you can now go on and have fun swimming.

True that I can't still swim
Anyway, I don't know much about u-boats, haven't played any u-boat simulator before this so it will take ages to learn game with full realism and it's possible I get bored to game if I just get sinked by enemy in every mission without a single kill myself.

Do you really think that I still should begin with full realism?
And with what should I begin to learn? GWXs super manual?

Thanks for advice. I'll stay with GWX at least even it's slower to load and bit harder.

[WilyPete]

Originally Posted by Bummy

True that I can't still swim
Anyway, I don't know much about u-boats, haven't played any u-boat simulator before this so it will take ages to learn game with full realism and it's possible I get bored to game if I just get sinked by enemy in every mission without a single kill myself.

Do you really think that I still should begin with full realism?
And with what should I begin to learn? GWXs super manual?

Thanks for advice. I'll stay with GWX at least even it's slower to load and bit harder.

The good thing about sub sims is that you don't need to learn how to take off or land. No fiddling about with flaps. Though remember that you still need to set the toilet pressure or it may potentially damage the sub. But apart from that it's hard to damage a sub with incompetence. So no learning to drive it.

The only thing you need to learn is how to sink things and survive. If you play from September (August if using GWX 3) 1939 there's little chance/risk you'll be sunk especially if you stick with a IIa in the North Sea. Basically in real life they were defensive boats and were actually primarily used as "school boats". Remember when you took your driving lessons? Well that's what these boats are for...5 torpedos to practice with and a small boat making it easier to reverse park. And quick patrols usually lasting 10 days.

It's very hard to get killed in a IIa unless you go looking for it, so you wont get bored in that respect. You may get bored when all you do is miss with your torpedos all the time...which will happen a few times. One way I found how to avoid this is at the start, when you're still learning how to shoot, get so close to the target as it is practically impossible to miss. Also practice with the actual practice thing section in the game...

But yeah good advice is, get close to the target so practice getting a good approach (you want to get the ship side on...more side on the better..think like ship warfare in 1780...broadsides are still good) get to within 1000m and then fire your torpedos without using the computer...so all you do is click the "x" before firing with the UZO or periscope. Rermemeber to lead a bit (aim in front of the point you want to hit) slightly. This will give you a feel for how the torpedo performs, how long it takes to cover distance, how long to lead and give you satisfaction with the BOOOOOOM and bodies flying all over the place (remember to run over any survivors). Then from there, with a little confidence, start playing about with the TDC (Turd Distribution Chamber) aka the torpedo computer.

This game is very frustrating at times but equally very rewarding when you blow up a ship...see things flying in the air...the explosions are epic.

p.s. Do you open doors for ladies? Well treat your torpedos like ladies. Your sub is full of classy bitches who expect you open the door for them otherwise they'll get the hump and go off in another direction. They also expect to be kept well lubricated and some of them need warming up beforehand, otherwise they don't last the distance.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Bummy

True that I can't still swim
Anyway, I don't know much about u-boats, haven't played any u-boat simulator before this so it will take ages to learn game with full realism and it's possible I get bored to game if I just get sinked by enemy in every mission without a single kill myself.

Do you really think that I still should begin with full realism?
And with what should I begin to learn? GWXs super manual?

Thanks for advice. I'll stay with GWX at least even it's slower to load and bit harder.

I'd say go with full realism minus the manual targeting, but that's just me.

[Bummy]

Thanks all
I'll try those.
kuchciol: Yes, that's true, I'll check it out too.

[Jimbuna]

Welcome aboard Kaleun Bummy

As per the usual advice you can commence the learning curve by enabling every mod under the sun or taking it one step at a time whilst gaining experience.

Either way....tis your choice.

Enjoy the GWXperience