Obama throws our Military and CIA under the bus in front of a Muslim audience

SUBMAN1 · 06-06-09, 01:20 PM

He just validated Al Qeida's propaganda:

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=353923

-S

SteamWake · 06-06-09, 01:42 PM

Any wonder why this kind of escapade takes place on the weekend?

Oh forgot to add. Everyones a critic !

Enigma · 06-07-09, 12:19 AM

You're both morons.

Now for another gin and tonic.....

SteamWake · 06-07-09, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Enigma

You're both morons.

Now for another gin and tonic.....

So much anger :rotfl:

Stealth Hunter · 06-07-09, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

He just validated Al Qeida's propaganda

By admitting we were wrong and did make mistakes?

Kapitan_Phillips · 06-07-09, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

By admitting we were wrong and did make mistakes?

Havent you heard? America never makes mistakes.

Skybird · 06-07-09, 07:36 AM

I'm split over the speech, not because he admitted obvious political mistakes of the recent years, but because he glossed over some very substantial cultural differences and made some questionable historical references whose truth could be argued. His quoting from the Quran also was extremely pinpointed, ignoring passages that say very much the opposite of his quotes, or put his quotes into relation and contexts that are expressing the opposite.

He probably accepted to do that in the hope that the intention justifies the means. If that will pay off in the long run instead of boomeranging, remains to be seen. I'm sceptical. I wished he would have made a different speech. I see reason but also plenty of appeasement in it. Meeting Islam from a position of Islam-perceived weakness, never did and never will do any good.

Frame57 · 06-07-09, 09:15 AM

Yep! They do not respect weakness at all, it will only fuel their agenda IMO. One of the things as a senior NCO you learn to never show weakness to the crew. This bum is CIC and is doing nothing but showing weakness. but i expected nothing less given his socio/political views. It took a Jimmy Carter to give us a Ronald Regan...

06-07-09, 09:34 AM

Some time ago I read an article which set forth the premise that Judeo-Christian societies were guilt based, and Muslim societies were shame-based. The upshot was that the two societies percieve apologies quite differently. The guilt based look upon self abasement as a renewal from which mistakes are corrected, while shame based look on the same thing as a further slide into the abiss.

Now again this was some time ago when I read the piece, but that is what I took away from it.

Based on that, it makes me wonder why, with his self proclaimed affinity for Islam, Mr. Obama would continue along this path?

nikimcbee · 06-07-09, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Frame57

Yep! They do not respect weakness at all, it will only fuel their agenda IMO. One of the things as a senior NCO you learn to never show weakness to the crew. This bum is CIC and is doing nothing but showing weakness. but i expected nothing less given his socio/political views. It took a Jimmy Carter to give us a Ronald Regan...

So who's going to be our new Reagan? It seems like there are no good leaders out there at the present time, just politicians.

If you have the word "senator" on your resume, please don't apply.

Stealth Hunter · 06-09-09, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

Havent you heard? America never makes mistakes.

I've strayed from my authoritarian/nationalist mindset.

Alert 1 · 06-08-09, 09:18 AM

Welcome to O bummers United Socialist States of America.

I did not vote for the bum nor do not recognize him as my president.

He is a frigging scum bag

Kapitan_Phillips · 06-08-09, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Alert 1

Welcome to O bummers United Socialist States of America.

I did not vote for the bum nor do not recognize him as my president.

He is a frigging scum bag

Its pretty harsh calling someone you've never met a scumbag, dude.

Skybird · 06-08-09, 10:07 AM

Post reported.

Having an opinion is one thing. Behaving like this is a very different thing.

SteamWake · 06-08-09, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Post reported.

Having an opinion is one thing. Behaving like this is a very different thing.

LOL you do realize that KP is a mod right?

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06-07-09, 07:36 AM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,665 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I'm split over the speech, not because he admitted obvious political mistakes of the recent years, but because he glossed over some very substantial cultural differences and made some questionable historical references whose truth could be argued. His quoting from the Quran also was extremely pinpointed, ignoring passages that say very much the opposite of his quotes, or put his quotes into relation and contexts that are expressing the opposite. He probably accepted to do that in the hope that the intention justifies the means. If that will pay off in the long run instead of boomeranging, remains to be seen. I'm sceptical. I wished he would have made a different speech. I see reason but also plenty of appeasement in it. Meeting Islam from a position of Islam-perceived weakness, never did and never will do any good. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 06-07-09 at 07:46 AM.

06-07-09, 09:15 AM	#8
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Yep! They do not respect weakness at all, it will only fuel their agenda IMO. One of the things as a senior NCO you learn to never show weakness to the crew. This bum is CIC and is doing nothing but showing weakness. but i expected nothing less given his socio/political views. It took a Jimmy Carter to give us a Ronald Regan... __________________ "My Religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds." Albert Einstein

06-07-09, 09:34 AM	#9
CastleBravo Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Some time ago I read an article which set forth the premise that Judeo-Christian societies were guilt based, and Muslim societies were shame-based. The upshot was that the two societies percieve apologies quite differently. The guilt based look upon self abasement as a renewal from which mistakes are corrected, while shame based look on the same thing as a further slide into the abiss. Now again this was some time ago when I read the piece, but that is what I took away from it. Based on that, it makes me wonder why, with his self proclaimed affinity for Islam, Mr. Obama would continue along this path?

06-08-09, 09:18 AM	#12
Alert 1 Watch Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 16 Downloads: 196 Uploads: 0	Welcome to O bummers United Socialist States of America. I did not vote for the bum nor do not recognize him as my president. He is a frigging scum bag

06-08-09, 10:07 AM	#14
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,665 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Post reported. Having an opinion is one thing. Behaving like this is a very different thing. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.