Why would a uboat commander remove his deck gun?

Lt.Fillipidis · 06-03-09, 10:01 AM

After a 73.000GRT patrol in the mediteranean, the first thing i did was to go to the nightclub to have some fun. Well, Bruno there told me that Peter removed his deck gun before his last patrol.
Why would he do that?

Pohl · 06-03-09, 10:08 AM

Because the far you get into the war the less you will use the deck gun, merchant ships begin to have guns and actually shot you but with a terrible aim, so you eventually stop using it around mid '42 (at least for me) I find the flak guns more efective or use a trained gunner to take out the merchant guns that way you can take your time to sink them or it could be to improve the speed while submerged

danlisa · 06-03-09, 10:09 AM

Regardless of the games take on this. A Uboats 'skin' and hull was very susceptible to small & large caliber fire. So as soon as merchants etc became equipped with their own deck weaponry, surface attacks became dangerous.

So uboats opted to remove the now useless (or less used) deck gun in favour of faster turn rates, reduced drag , faster dive times and (possibly) additional storage resultant from the removal of DG ammo stores.

Why have it if you can't use it?

danurve · 06-03-09, 10:38 AM

Beacuse it looks cool and sometimes you can still find a lone merchant with just a forward deck gun.

If the game engine took into account the dynamics on no deck gun I'd remove it after 41. As it is I just choose no gun when I trade in the viib for 7/41.

Jimbuna · 06-03-09, 11:38 AM

There are very few ships you can fight on even grounds after merchants become armed......not very realistic either.

Try taking on an MTB...you'll soon find you've few crew to man the bloody thing

Murr44 · 06-03-09, 03:30 PM

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Try taking on an MTB...you'll soon find you've few crew to man the bloody thing

It's like trying to kill a wasp with an elephant gun...

Your best bet is to dive when you encounter an MTB. The game engine won't let them launch torpedoes so you'll be safe once you submerge. MTB's often operate in pairs so watch out for that too...

Task Force · 06-03-09, 04:17 PM

Well... In real life... the subs without were alittle quicker under water. And during the late war.

Deck Gunning=Death.

06-03-09, 10:01 AM	#1
Lt.Fillipidis Weps Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Veria, Greece Posts: 365 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Why would a uboat commander remove his deck gun? After a 73.000GRT patrol in the mediteranean, the first thing i did was to go to the nightclub to have some fun. Well, Bruno there told me that Peter removed his deck gun before his last patrol. Why would he do that?

06-03-09, 10:08 AM	#2
Pohl Sparky Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 157 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Because the far you get into the war the less you will use the deck gun, merchant ships begin to have guns and actually shot you but with a terrible aim, so you eventually stop using it around mid '42 (at least for me) I find the flak guns more efective or use a trained gunner to take out the merchant guns that way you can take your time to sink them or it could be to improve the speed while submerged __________________ Current Careers: U-177 Type IXD2, 10th Flotilla March 13, 1943 U-3502 Type XXI, 7th/13th Flotilla April 14, 1942 100% realism, GWX 3.0, SH3 Commander 3.2

06-03-09, 10:09 AM	#3
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Regardless of the games take on this. A Uboats 'skin' and hull was very susceptible to small & large caliber fire. So as soon as merchants etc became equipped with their own deck weaponry, surface attacks became dangerous. So uboats opted to remove the now useless (or less used) deck gun in favour of faster turn rates, reduced drag , faster dive times and (possibly) additional storage resultant from the removal of DG ammo stores. Why have it if you can't use it? __________________

06-03-09, 10:38 AM	#4
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	Beacuse it looks cool and sometimes you can still find a lone merchant with just a forward deck gun. If the game engine took into account the dynamics on no deck gun I'd remove it after 41. As it is I just choose no gun when I trade in the viib for 7/41. __________________

06-03-09, 11:38 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,539 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	There are very few ships you can fight on even grounds after merchants become armed......not very realistic either. Try taking on an MTB...you'll soon find you've few crew to man the bloody thing __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-03-09, 04:17 PM	#7
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Well... In real life... the subs without were alittle quicker under water. And during the late war. Deck Gunning=Death. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"