Searchlights

Sniper_Fox · 05-22-09, 06:11 PM

Is it possible to put em on your own ship?

if not how do i add starshells to my ship?

Stealhead · 05-22-09, 07:26 PM

I think the usable search light on a sub would be a no go but I know somehwere on this site there are some mods that do add the ability to use the star shells. Though I must ask why on earth would you want use a search light on a submarine aginst anything that has a deckgun that is just asking for trouble as a bright light gives them a target to shoot at though I guess you could use it on small boats.

05-22-09, 07:35 PM

If you scaled the Searchlite down to the size of a hand held
spotlite and made it a useable weapon?

Would be cool when doing some Missions.

It's totally possible to do.

If you want a pre-built model with all the trimmings?
Check out the Spot Lite on the K-Ship in GWX.

Then make it a weapon you can fire.

Rockin Robbins · 05-22-09, 08:20 PM

Actually there was a mounted searchlight on fleet boats after the war. I don't know if boats had them during the war though. Davey!!!!!!!!

gimpy117 · 05-22-09, 09:17 PM

no point...they give away your position...

LukeFF · 05-23-09, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Actually there was a mounted searchlight on fleet boats after the war. I don't know if boats had them during the war though. Davey!!!!!!!!

They certainly did:

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/0817220.jpg

S boats also had them:

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/0815611.jpg

edjcox · 05-24-09, 01:13 AM

Ok Folks searchlights were used routinely by Subs. They allowed for communication with surface vessels and aircraft via morse. They were fitted with colored filters to again indicate and signal.

They were seldom if ever used to designate or locate a target vessel. They were used to signal and IFF as well as provide a means of guiding a rubber raft, etc.

All these uses were of course carefully thought out and controlled in order to not endanger the vessel.

They were very useful and a part of the ships equipment.

Starshells were also used but mostly with handheld 25mm shells, again for the purpose of signalling and IFF. A larger starshell cannon fired over a target into the air beyond could provide a silouette for targeting and identification. Very hazardous technique but employed effectively by U Boats. In an era were radar was new and unreliable, boats were fitted with night optics (larger aperatures) in the observation scopes and in handheld binoculars. Enhancing visibility with a starshell heaved above and beyond a target was a godsend to those attempting to engage at night. Of course lighting up the sky worked both ways and the glitter of white phospher aided DD's and gun crews in finding the subs periscope. Glints off the optics were dead giveaways and the bane of sub skippers..

Japanese subs were fitted with an effective countermeasure. It consisted of a weighted bamboo periscope dummy that was deployed and attracted a DD into a run. These decoys were employed to bait and attact a DD into a run that would provide a Sub sitting silently a target they could predict a bearing on.

The last thing a lookout might see is the bamboo persicope being run over as a torpedoe cuts through the water into the DD's side...

A DD commander may well have wondered how he was sunk..

05-22-09, 06:11 PM	#1
Sniper_Fox Engineer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North of Malta, shadowing your pretty little C3 Cargo! Posts: 212 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Searchlights Is it possible to put em on your own ship? if not how do i add starshells to my ship? __________________ Im a one U-boat wolfpack. Ive hit the bottom of the Mediterranian at 250 metres in my VIIC and brought that babe back up, and still made it back to La Spezia. Ive sunk more destroyers than I have merchants...youll wish you never sailed into U-87s hunting grounds. When you pull into port, dont lull yourself into a false sense of security, your mines and subnets are just a petty challenge for my crew and I.

05-22-09, 08:20 PM	#4
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Actually there was a mounted searchlight on fleet boats after the war. I don't know if boats had them during the war though. Davey!!!!!!!! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

05-22-09, 09:17 PM	#5
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	no point...they give away your position... __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

05-24-09, 01:13 AM	#7
edjcox Engineer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Shang Gri La Posts: 219 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	Searchlights Ok Folks searchlights were used routinely by Subs. They allowed for communication with surface vessels and aircraft via morse. They were fitted with colored filters to again indicate and signal. They were seldom if ever used to designate or locate a target vessel. They were used to signal and IFF as well as provide a means of guiding a rubber raft, etc. All these uses were of course carefully thought out and controlled in order to not endanger the vessel. They were very useful and a part of the ships equipment. Starshells were also used but mostly with handheld 25mm shells, again for the purpose of signalling and IFF. A larger starshell cannon fired over a target into the air beyond could provide a silouette for targeting and identification. Very hazardous technique but employed effectively by U Boats. In an era were radar was new and unreliable, boats were fitted with night optics (larger aperatures) in the observation scopes and in handheld binoculars. Enhancing visibility with a starshell heaved above and beyond a target was a godsend to those attempting to engage at night. Of course lighting up the sky worked both ways and the glitter of white phospher aided DD's and gun crews in finding the subs periscope. Glints off the optics were dead giveaways and the bane of sub skippers.. Japanese subs were fitted with an effective countermeasure. It consisted of a weighted bamboo periscope dummy that was deployed and attracted a DD into a run. These decoys were employed to bait and attact a DD into a run that would provide a Sub sitting silently a target they could predict a bearing on. The last thing a lookout might see is the bamboo persicope being run over as a torpedoe cuts through the water into the DD's side... A DD commander may well have wondered how he was sunk.. __________________ EJ Cox http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z...jcox/usaCa.gif

05-22-09, 07:26 PM	#2
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I think the usable search light on a sub would be a no go but I know somehwere on this site there are some mods that do add the ability to use the star shells. Though I must ask why on earth would you want use a search light on a submarine aginst anything that has a deckgun that is just asking for trouble as a bright light gives them a target to shoot at though I guess you could use it on small boats.

05-22-09, 07:35 PM	#3
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	If you scaled the Searchlite down to the size of a hand held spotlite and made it a useable weapon? Would be cool when doing some Missions. It's totally possible to do. If you want a pre-built model with all the trimmings? Check out the Spot Lite on the K-Ship in GWX. Then make it a weapon you can fire.