Fire the navigator

Peter Cremer · 05-09-09, 11:07 AM

After reading some posts about running out of fuel before getting back to base after a mission, I finally ran into such a problem. The mission was to deliver an agent to China, patrol the East China Sea, and return to base. I could get to China and drop off the agent and still have nearly 3/4 tank of fuel left. Plenty to patrol the area and sink a few ships, right? I tried it. Ran out of fuel about half way to Pearl Harbor. I had saved the mission after dropping the agent off so that's where I started from again with 3/4 tank of fuel. Skipped patrolling and headed straight for Pearl. No good. I ran out again, did'nt get as far as Midway. I tried again, and again. I wondered how I could put up some sails. I spent about 11 hours on this problem. Suddenly I remembered I had transferred from Pearl Harbor to Fremantle just before the mission. What a dumba$$. I restarted again and sank 3 ships in a convoy and 5 destroyers on the way back to FREEMANTLE. Mission complete!

Aramike · 05-09-09, 12:07 PM

Also make sure you're not speeding along too fast as fuel consumption increases proportionally to speed.

Peter Cremer · 05-09-09, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aramike

Also make sure you're not speeding along too fast as fuel consumption increases proportionally to speed.

I never get out of second gear.

Speedo · 05-09-09, 03:56 PM

I allways going on standart speed. And i can swim about 11,000 16,000 nm
If whever is good

Stealhead · 05-09-09, 04:57 PM

What is second gear? In SH you either select a telegraph speed of use the knotmeter to set a specific knot speed. With TMO and RFb it is best to go ahead standard while on the surface as much as possiable or 9-10 knots if you have stock you will end up at around 15kts using ahead standard too fast for good fuel use Id try to do about 9 or 10 knots with stock as well. With fuel consumption issues it is very important to say what version of the game you are playing as with some like RFB they have the fuel consumption most "harsh" meaning that you have to be more careful with RFB. Another factor if running from Pearl are you topping off your fuel at Midway while heading towards Japan? if not I very highly reccomend that you do as even though you may only use a small amount of fuel from Pearl to Midway not topping will become an issue later.By topping of at Midway i have never run out of fuel on a very long patrol i may only have 25 or so units of fuel left when arriving at Pearl but I have never run out also if in doubt top off at Midway on the way back.If you plan ahead running out of fuel should not be an issue never has been for me in stock or TMO. To me another huge advantage with both RFB and TMO is that you can find out the max range of your sub at any given time.

Very Jerry · 05-10-09, 02:36 AM

The only time I ran out of fuel was due to recharging the batteries the whole trip back to base (or not making base). What happens is during a depth charging attack my batteries were damaged. Well, even tough it says the batteries were repaired they really were not. The batteries would only take a 98% charge. but the sub will run the diesels extra hard trying to recharge them to 100%. What you must do is go to the command room and manually turn off the "recharge batteries" icon. You must turn off this icon each time you surface on the way back. A real pain in the "stern".

I would have never figured it out, but luckily read about it on this forum.

Good hunting

Sailor Steve · 05-10-09, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealhead

What is second gear? In SH you either select a telegraph speed of use the knotmeter to set a specific knot speed.

I'm betting he was making a joke about using 2/3 speed.

05-09-09, 11:07 AM	#1
Peter Cremer Machinist's Mate Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Usually in the past.... Posts: 121 Downloads: 144 Uploads: 0	Fire the navigator After reading some posts about running out of fuel before getting back to base after a mission, I finally ran into such a problem. The mission was to deliver an agent to China, patrol the East China Sea, and return to base. I could get to China and drop off the agent and still have nearly 3/4 tank of fuel left. Plenty to patrol the area and sink a few ships, right? I tried it. Ran out of fuel about half way to Pearl Harbor. I had saved the mission after dropping the agent off so that's where I started from again with 3/4 tank of fuel. Skipped patrolling and headed straight for Pearl. No good. I ran out again, did'nt get as far as Midway. I tried again, and again. I wondered how I could put up some sails. I spent about 11 hours on this problem. Suddenly I remembered I had transferred from Pearl Harbor to Fremantle just before the mission. What a dumba$$. I restarted again and sank 3 ships in a convoy and 5 destroyers on the way back to FREEMANTLE. Mission complete!

05-09-09, 12:07 PM	#2
Aramike Ocean Warrior Best of SUBSIM Chairman Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 3,207 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Also make sure you're not speeding along too fast as fuel consumption increases proportionally to speed.

05-09-09, 03:56 PM	#4
Speedo Bosun Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lithuania, Kaunas Posts: 63 Downloads: 112 Uploads: 0	I allways going on standart speed. And i can swim about 11,000 16,000 nm If whever is good

05-09-09, 04:57 PM	#5
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	What is second gear? In SH you either select a telegraph speed of use the knotmeter to set a specific knot speed. With TMO and RFb it is best to go ahead standard while on the surface as much as possiable or 9-10 knots if you have stock you will end up at around 15kts using ahead standard too fast for good fuel use Id try to do about 9 or 10 knots with stock as well. With fuel consumption issues it is very important to say what version of the game you are playing as with some like RFB they have the fuel consumption most "harsh" meaning that you have to be more careful with RFB. Another factor if running from Pearl are you topping off your fuel at Midway while heading towards Japan? if not I very highly reccomend that you do as even though you may only use a small amount of fuel from Pearl to Midway not topping will become an issue later.By topping of at Midway i have never run out of fuel on a very long patrol i may only have 25 or so units of fuel left when arriving at Pearl but I have never run out also if in doubt top off at Midway on the way back.If you plan ahead running out of fuel should not be an issue never has been for me in stock or TMO. To me another huge advantage with both RFB and TMO is that you can find out the max range of your sub at any given time.

05-10-09, 02:36 AM	#6
Very Jerry Watch Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 27 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	The only time I ran out of fuel was due to recharging the batteries the whole trip back to base (or not making base). What happens is during a depth charging attack my batteries were damaged. Well, even tough it says the batteries were repaired they really were not. The batteries would only take a 98% charge. but the sub will run the diesels extra hard trying to recharge them to 100%. What you must do is go to the command room and manually turn off the "recharge batteries" icon. You must turn off this icon each time you surface on the way back. A real pain in the "stern". I would have never figured it out, but luckily read about it on this forum. Good hunting