Is U-boot bow spray....

Sag75 · 04-26-09, 10:19 PM

..visible by enemy?

I'm using GWX2.1 and I normally use the deck awash navigation to get closer to merchants.. It really works!

but I'm just guessing if the white of my bow sprays can be detected in the night time...

I know, for istance, there are "sensitive" colors to AI.

thanks!

TarJak · 04-27-09, 01:48 AM

Yes you can be "seen" or heard when closing with a Merchant fully surfaced as opposed to being decks awash. Your silhouette is also higher giving another detection opportunity to the enemy.

I always approach targets decks awash when making a surface attack.

Sag75 · 04-27-09, 11:47 AM

Thanks! but what about the white of the spray? I can see my spray in the night watching from the hunted ship..

04-27-09, 06:48 PM

The AI does not see colors.
You could have Black Spray and it would make no difference.
Infact?
The AI does not see the wakes at all.

It calculates off of a square object setting.

That setting is the bounding box of an object as seen in 3D.

Sag75 · 04-27-09, 07:16 PM

Thanks Privateer!

so does AI see only the turret bounding 3D box when I'm on deck awash, and the whole hull box when I'm fully surfaced?

Is this the only parameter in this condition? how night/day affect that?

(sorry for my questions, but I'm curious how SH3 works!)

makman94 · 04-27-09, 09:50 PM

hello Sag75,

the brightness of the ambientlightcolor (it is inside the envcolors.dats) is responsible for been spotted or not when you are surfaced at night.
in gwx, these values are setted too low and you can almost 'touch' the ship at night without been spotted.'play' with the brightness of these values and you can adjust from what distance to been spotted at night. the foto is from gwx3 with its own environment:

Kubryk · 04-28-09, 06:28 AM

Regarding one issue from this thread - how can I order decks awash in VIIB (stock SH3)? While completly surfaced my boat is submerged for 5m (wind 5ms). When I ordered 'depth 6m' I was a little deeper, but my crew went inside and diesel was shut down, electric started. Can I have decks under water and still have crew in tower? Frankly I don't see a point of going 6m when I cannot use UZO

RoaldLarsen · 05-25-09, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kubryk

Regarding one issue from this thread - how can I order decks awash in VIIB (stock SH3)? While completly surfaced my boat is submerged for 5m (wind 5ms). When I ordered 'depth 6m' I was a little deeper, but my crew went inside and diesel was shut down, electric started. Can I have decks under water and still have crew in tower? Frankly I don't see a point of going 6m when I cannot use UZO

You can't run decks awash in stock. You need a mod. The supermods all build in the ability. There are other mods and SH3 Commander tweaks you can use to enable decks awash without loading a supermmod. Use this site's search function for posts (not threads) by me and "decks awash" to find a simple modification you can make either by using SH3 Commander or by editing config files.

04-26-09, 10:19 PM	#1
Sag75 XO Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 424 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	Is U-boot bow spray.... ..visible by enemy? I'm using GWX2.1 and I normally use the deck awash navigation to get closer to merchants.. It really works! but I'm just guessing if the white of my bow sprays can be detected in the night time... I know, for istance, there are "sensitive" colors to AI. thanks! __________________ Betasom - XI Gruppo Sommergibili Atlantici http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php

04-27-09, 11:47 AM	#3
Sag75 XO Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 424 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	Thanks! but what about the white of the spray? I can see my spray in the night watching from the hunted ship.. __________________ Betasom - XI Gruppo Sommergibili Atlantici http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php

04-27-09, 07:16 PM	#5
Sag75 XO Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 424 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	Thanks Privateer! so does AI see only the turret bounding 3D box when I'm on deck awash, and the whole hull box when I'm fully surfaced? Is this the only parameter in this condition? how night/day affect that? (sorry for my questions, but I'm curious how SH3 works!) __________________ Betasom - XI Gruppo Sommergibili Atlantici http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php

04-28-09, 06:28 AM	#7
Kubryk Bosun Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Warsaw, Poland Posts: 66 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 0	Decks awash Regarding one issue from this thread - how can I order decks awash in VIIB (stock SH3)? While completly surfaced my boat is submerged for 5m (wind 5ms). When I ordered 'depth 6m' I was a little deeper, but my crew went inside and diesel was shut down, electric started. Can I have decks under water and still have crew in tower? Frankly I don't see a point of going 6m when I cannot use UZO

04-27-09, 01:48 AM	#2
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Yes you can be "seen" or heard when closing with a Merchant fully surfaced as opposed to being decks awash. Your silhouette is also higher giving another detection opportunity to the enemy. I always approach targets decks awash when making a surface attack.

04-27-09, 06:48 PM	#4
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	The AI does not see colors. You could have Black Spray and it would make no difference. Infact? The AI does not see the wakes at all. It calculates off of a square object setting. That setting is the bounding box of an object as seen in 3D.

04-27-09, 09:50 PM	#6
makman94 Hellas Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,325 Downloads: 182 Uploads: 7	hello Sag75, the brightness of the ambientlightcolor (it is inside the envcolors.dats) is responsible for been spotted or not when you are surfaced at night. in gwx, these values are setted too low and you can almost 'touch' the ship at night without been spotted.'play' with the brightness of these values and you can adjust from what distance to been spotted at night. the foto is from gwx3 with its own environment: