Flooding equals death

Nangleator · 04-10-09, 11:50 PM

Died just now, my 12th patrol in my fat pig of a IX boat. The very first detection of my boat in all those patrols results in my death.

I've probably completed over fifty patrols now, and never once survived once I get damage to anything but the guns and the conning tower.

This time, a single destroyer separated from the convoy I was hitting. I had no trouble seeing me, or knowing my depth. The first cans passed within a few meters of my hull before blowing up under me.

When it got bad, I headed for periscope depth and readied my eels. Before I got to PD, the flooding caused me to start sinking again. So I blew ballast. Once I got a visual on him, my eels were away. (I don't do manual calculations.) I bobbed to the surface and took a few more hits from his guns before I blew him out of the water.

All this time, my damage crew (three damage-rated PO's, a damage-rated officer and about six sailors) was working on the most damaged compartment. Well, I had about fifteen seconds of peace while I waited for the damage crew to make some progress.

*Blink*

Mission ended. 44 dead.

So tell me. Is there any point in qualifying anyone for damage control?

GoldenRivet · 04-11-09, 12:19 AM

those pigs are too big... the DDs might as well be pinging a submerged mountain.

A Very Super Market · 04-11-09, 01:48 AM

There is, it just means they'll work faster. And is a real bonus. You're real problem here is evasion. You can go deeper in a IX, but cannot turn as sharply. Remember, the goal of the escorts is to get you away from the convoy, so you must do that. I believe in-game, once the convoy gets a certain distance away from the escorts, they all just turn around and head back.

Nangleator · 04-11-09, 01:54 AM

So don't bother trying to hide, just power away and zig when the cans come down?

Synthfg · 04-11-09, 03:34 AM

Mehh Sink the Escort before he gets you

Lt.Fillipidis · 04-11-09, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

There is, it just means they'll work faster. And is a real bonus. You're real problem here is evasion. You can go deeper in a IX, but cannot turn as sharply. Remember, the goal of the escorts is to get you away from the convoy, so you must do that. I believe in-game, once the convoy gets a certain distance away from the escorts, they all just turn around and head back.

Strange... In my last patrol i got about 100km away from the place i sank three ships of the convoy (so my distance from the convoy itself would be 200km +) but 2 of their escorts were still hunting me...
EDIT: And that was in June '42, in a VIIB...

Shantyman · 04-11-09, 10:35 AM

I have found that flooding does not always mean death. Many times I have fought it out with aircraft and took a few stray hits which caused flooding.

However in all cases the crew got the boat back into service pretty quickly.

Depth charge induced flooding is a different matter

Sharkley · 04-11-09, 10:59 AM

I have had many a strange thing happen to me while flooding or trying to repair the flooding. I dislike the sudden death screen as I never seem to know what really caused it.

I use LRT v2.02 so my repair times can be hours, one of the stranger things I see is that even when the repairs are complete the flood remains and yet I cannot repair the area again.

Mind you I have never lost a patrol do to flooding only, I think damage plays at least 80+% in my patrol deaths.

04-10-09, 11:50 PM	#1
Nangleator Mate Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Billerica Posts: 58 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Flooding equals death Died just now, my 12th patrol in my fat pig of a IX boat. The very first detection of my boat in all those patrols results in my death. I've probably completed over fifty patrols now, and never once survived once I get damage to anything but the guns and the conning tower. This time, a single destroyer separated from the convoy I was hitting. I had no trouble seeing me, or knowing my depth. The first cans passed within a few meters of my hull before blowing up under me. When it got bad, I headed for periscope depth and readied my eels. Before I got to PD, the flooding caused me to start sinking again. So I blew ballast. Once I got a visual on him, my eels were away. (I don't do manual calculations.) I bobbed to the surface and took a few more hits from his guns before I blew him out of the water. All this time, my damage crew (three damage-rated PO's, a damage-rated officer and about six sailors) was working on the most damaged compartment. Well, I had about fifteen seconds of peace while I waited for the damage crew to make some progress. Blink Mission ended. 44 dead. So tell me. Is there any point in qualifying anyone for damage control?

04-11-09, 12:19 AM	#2
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	those pigs are too big... the DDs might as well be pinging a submerged mountain. __________________

04-11-09, 01:48 AM	#3
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	There is, it just means they'll work faster. And is a real bonus. You're real problem here is evasion. You can go deeper in a IX, but cannot turn as sharply. Remember, the goal of the escorts is to get you away from the convoy, so you must do that. I believe in-game, once the convoy gets a certain distance away from the escorts, they all just turn around and head back. __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

04-11-09, 10:35 AM	#7
Shantyman Watch Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 26 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I have found that flooding does not always mean death. Many times I have fought it out with aircraft and took a few stray hits which caused flooding. However in all cases the crew got the boat back into service pretty quickly. Depth charge induced flooding is a different matter __________________ Churchill was a 'War-Monger' and 'Buffoon'

04-11-09, 10:59 AM	#8
Sharkley Engineer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 216 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	I have had many a strange thing happen to me while flooding or trying to repair the flooding. I dislike the sudden death screen as I never seem to know what really caused it. I use LRT v2.02 so my repair times can be hours, one of the stranger things I see is that even when the repairs are complete the flood remains and yet I cannot repair the area again. Mind you I have never lost a patrol do to flooding only, I think damage plays at least 80+% in my patrol deaths. __________________ Tonnage Wars http://www.comsubspac.com/ http://www.bts-mods.com/

04-11-09, 01:54 AM	#4
Nangleator Mate Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Billerica Posts: 58 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	So don't bother trying to hide, just power away and zig when the cans come down?

04-11-09, 03:34 AM	#5
Synthfg Sparky Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 154 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	Mehh Sink the Escort before he gets you