4 die, up to 40 held hostage in Binghamton shootings

[longam]

Police arrive at a shooting in Binghamton, New York, where people are believed to be held hostage.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/04/03/...ml#cnnSTCVideo

[AVGWarhawk]

That is a shame.

[SteamWake]

Heard about this.. very disturbing.

No mention of a motive yet, although it did occur at an INS office so Im assuming it has something to do with citizinship status.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Heard about this.. very disturbing.

No mention of a motive yet, although it did occur at an INS office so Im assuming it has something to do with citizinship status.

Could be. Here's another thing about it from msn;
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30030756/?GT1=43001


One thing I wonder is where the hell the security was. INS is a government entity, right? Even the DMV has armed policemen standing around, where were they in this case?

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Could be. Here's another thing about it from msn;
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30030756/?GT1=43001


One thing I wonder is where the hell the security was. INS is a government entity, right? Even the DMV has armed policemen standing around, where were they in this case?

My heart goes out to these poor people. The thing that worries me, is when the administration is going to take advantage of this "crisis" and go after the second amendment. It's just a matter of time.

And for the cops at the DMV, here in or-gone, the DMV is more like the Mexican consulate. We are subverting national law and giving DLs to anyone, regardless of citizenship (did I mention you can register to vote on the same piece of paper). I've never seen armed anybody at the DMV. I hate going there!

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Could be. Here's another thing about it from msn;
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30030756/?GT1=43001


One thing I wonder is where the hell the security was. INS is a government entity, right? Even the DMV has armed policemen standing around, where were they in this case?

Well it turns out I was wrong (nothing new) it was not an INS office rather a citizenship group of some sort that helps people get their citizenship. Not the kind of place one expects to become a shooting gallery. There was a 'test' going on at the time.

[Yahoshua]

There's a total of 13 dead, 2 B&W were on scene within 5 minutes of the first 911 call, a litte later for SWAT to arrive yet it took over an hour to secure the scene.

What's the point of a SWAT team if they're going to rush to the scene of the crime and then sit on their ass outin the parking lot?