What periscope is the most discreet?

Pepe le Moko · 03-20-09, 10:22 PM

I always try to keep the periscope up for the shortest time to avoid being detected and usually used the observation periscope until the last moment when i switched to the attack scope, but now i am not sure anymore whether that's a good idea or not.

Which one is the less likely to get detected?
Also which one is in the conning tower and which one is in the control room?

Torplexed · 03-20-09, 10:35 PM

The observation scope's head is slightly larger, but from a distance the difference would be negligible. A lookout would most likely sight either periscope's spray or 'feather' before seeing the periscope itself.

The attack scope was located at the commander's battle post in the conning tower.

A Very Super Market · 03-20-09, 11:13 PM

Go watch Das Boot!

Yeah, the difference is negligible, because they don't try and spot the periscope itself, just its wake. RADAR probably won't differentiate in-game either.

The conning tower periscope is the Attack Periscope. You'll notice that it swivels around at a lower rate than the Observation one. And has a few more bars, but I don't really use them.

Pepe le Moko · 03-20-09, 11:51 PM

I just watched it yesterday

So what's the point of the observation periscope if it is not more discreet? it is higher above the waves?

Torplexed · 03-20-09, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepe le Moko

I just watched it yesterday

So what's the point of the observation periscope if it is not more discreet? it is higher above the waves?

In real life it had wider angle of view and allowed more light in the periscope. Unlike the attack periscope it's capable of viewing above the sub and searching the sky for aircraft. It can perform this function in the game too.

Otto Heinzmeir · 03-21-09, 12:00 AM

I used to use the observation scope to watch the escorts overhead if I was playing in clear water. I play in denser water now and just listen for the escorts engines to rev. Great fun watching the DC cans falling down.

Oh and of course you only need to raise it about a foot or so and then just pivot up.

Otto Heinzmeir · 03-26-09, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pepe le Moko

I just watched it yesterday

So what's the point of the observation periscope if it is not more discreet? it is higher above the waves?

Sorry I got bored, so made a list, some of which have been mentioned. Some of these uses only apply if the water is clear enough.

1: Scanning for planes.
2: Looking up for location of escort.
3: Watching for DC cans.
4: If your very close to bottom - use to see if the sea in front of you gets shallower.
5: Checking for mines
6:Watching the bubbles rise from your sub after you submerge.
7: Watching for sinking ships so you can avoid them when they komikossie to the bottom. (Iv'e had this happen and it just missed me)
8: Seeing if your deep enough yet to go under a merchant to get to other side and fire stearn tube.
9: Looking for nets
10: You lost your attack scope from getting rammed earlier or seal on attack periscope is bad.
11: Checking to make sure there are no iceburgs ahead if near Greenland (Ok, so I am getting desperate now)
12: Looking for dolphins
13: Looking for the torpedo that tracks noise that you fired 3 minutes ago and hasn't exploded yet.
14. Don't forget to do a 360 scan looking for warships before you surface, sometimes they cut there engines and wait.
15. If your not at periscope depth but at 50m or so, you can look up at dawn or dusk to see if its dark enough to surface when your in
an area of high enemy plane concentration. I like to run submerged at places like Scapa Flow and Gilbralter until nightfall.
16: Double checking to make sure you didn't leave some of your watch crew up top when you emergency dove.

Feel free to add more.

sharkbit · 03-26-09, 09:56 AM

Looking for any of Balz's lost tea cozies.

danurve · 03-23-09, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pepe le Moko

Which one is the less likely to get detected?
Also which one is in the conning tower and which one is in the control room?

Either as long as it's barely out of the water, and just when you need it.

Attack - conning
Obs. - control room

Oneshot/Onekill · 03-24-09, 02:28 PM

In R/L the observation periscope was the preferred scope in low light or low visibility obsevation of the target, it allowed more light into the prism and it could elevate at a much higher angle. Many Kaluens used it for night submerged attacks.

The attack periscope had a smaller prism, but at a higher magnefication, and could give much more detailed information about the target to input into the Vorhaltrechner.

Sailor Steve · 03-24-09, 02:42 PM

All true except this:

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Originally Posted by Oneshot/Onekill

...but at a higher magnefication...

All periscopes had the same magnification - 1.5x and 6x.

Oneshot/Onekill · 03-24-09, 02:45 PM

TY for correcting me SS. i just went and double checked my research on U-boatnet, good catch.

I've been plaing this game way too much, i'm used to the 10x LOL.

Sailor Steve · 03-24-09, 03:03 PM

Oh yeah, the 10x. I got rid of it from mine, and then put it back. To be really realistic the scope view should fill up the whole screen.

Also the Fleet Boat manual gives the specs for all three scopes in US subs.
http://www.maritime.org/fleetsub/pscope/index.htm

03-20-09, 10:22 PM	#1
Pepe le Moko A-ganger Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 73 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	What periscope is the most discreet? I always try to keep the periscope up for the shortest time to avoid being detected and usually used the observation periscope until the last moment when i switched to the attack scope, but now i am not sure anymore whether that's a good idea or not. Which one is the less likely to get detected? Also which one is in the conning tower and which one is in the control room?

03-20-09, 11:13 PM	#3
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Go watch Das Boot! Yeah, the difference is negligible, because they don't try and spot the periscope itself, just its wake. RADAR probably won't differentiate in-game either. The conning tower periscope is the Attack Periscope. You'll notice that it swivels around at a lower rate than the Observation one. And has a few more bars, but I don't really use them. __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

03-26-09, 09:56 AM	#8
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	Looking for any of Balz's lost tea cozies. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

03-24-09, 03:03 PM	#13
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Oh yeah, the 10x. I got rid of it from mine, and then put it back. To be really realistic the scope view should fill up the whole screen. Also the Fleet Boat manual gives the specs for all three scopes in US subs. http://www.maritime.org/fleetsub/pscope/index.htm __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-20-09, 10:35 PM	#2
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	The observation scope's head is slightly larger, but from a distance the difference would be negligible. A lookout would most likely sight either periscope's spray or 'feather' before seeing the periscope itself. The attack scope was located at the commander's battle post in the conning tower.

03-20-09, 11:51 PM	#4
Pepe le Moko A-ganger Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 73 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	I just watched it yesterday So what's the point of the observation periscope if it is not more discreet? it is higher above the waves?

03-21-09, 12:00 AM	#6
Otto Heinzmeir Weps Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Wilhelmshaven Local Pub Posts: 361 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I used to use the observation scope to watch the escorts overhead if I was playing in clear water. I play in denser water now and just listen for the escorts engines to rev. Great fun watching the DC cans falling down. Oh and of course you only need to raise it about a foot or so and then just pivot up.

03-24-09, 02:28 PM	#10
Oneshot/Onekill Captain Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Drinking a cold one in Davey Jone's locker. Posts: 487 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	In R/L the observation periscope was the preferred scope in low light or low visibility obsevation of the target, it allowed more light into the prism and it could elevate at a much higher angle. Many Kaluens used it for night submerged attacks. The attack periscope had a smaller prism, but at a higher magnefication, and could give much more detailed information about the target to input into the Vorhaltrechner.

03-24-09, 02:45 PM	#12
Oneshot/Onekill Captain Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Drinking a cold one in Davey Jone's locker. Posts: 487 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	TY for correcting me SS. i just went and double checked my research on U-boatnet, good catch. I've been plaing this game way too much, i'm used to the 10x LOL.