Democrats target another good American

[Sea Demon]

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...probe0214.html

Elections really do matter. Democrats align themselves with lawbreakers against law enforcement. These are the people you Democrats empower. Sick.

[Platapus]

I am afraid I am not following you. What's wrong with an investigation to see if racial profiling is being used in the enforcement of federal laws?

Sounds to me like they are doing what they are supposed to be doing.....conducting an investigation and getting the facts.

Especially since last year the Mayor of Phoenix evidently has the same concerns.

What exactly is the problem you have with this?

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by Platapus

What exactly is the problem you have with this?

If it involves the Democrats, he automatically has a disagreement with it.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

If it involves the Democrats, he automatically has a disagreement with it.

Oh, if only the world is as easy as you see it. I wouldn't have a problem with them if they actually did anything that protected American sovereignty, protected economic liberty and private property rights, if they protected taxpayer interests, if they had any sense of what actually grows an economy, if they actually had any understanding of their constitutional limitations, and were not so dangerous on matters of national security. Sorry, they are just truly that bad. I see no benefits to this country if they do most of what they seek to do. Their intentions, whether good or bad, usually lead to damage to whatever they touch. And I intend to call em' on it.

And the case above is just another example of them weakening law enforcement.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

If it involves the Democrats, he automatically has a disagreement with it.

It's pronounced; So-shul-ists. Lots of people have a problem with that.

[Zachstar]

I dont get it. If he is innocent the investigation will prove that. Foaming at the mouth wont help.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

I dont get it. If he is innocent the investigation will prove that. Foaming at the mouth wont help.

I know you don't get it. That's why you vote the way you do. National security and border security are not any Dem's strong points. The point is, we have seen Dem agitators do this stuff to more than one person over the years. It's always counter to the integrity of borders, common sense, and law enforcement. Every time. This is simply yet another example of agitators of the left taking a cause which weakens law enforcement. It is selective, and targeted against a high profile figure known for law enforcement and protecting citizens of his community and their property against criminal illegal aliens. The results of any investigation will change nothing. Pointing it out causes no foaming of my mouth, it merely causes annoyance by those who worship at the alter of these people. Nothing more.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

I dont get it. If he is innocent the investigation will prove that. Foaming at the mouth wont help.

If that post was a G7a torpedo, fired at 90 AOB, from 400m, it would have missed the mark by about a kilometer.

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

It's pronounced; So-shul-ists. Lots of people have a problem with that.

Wait- first they were Communists, then Fascists, then Marxists, THEN Socialists...

Which is it?

[mookiemookie]

The same Joe Arpaio who abuses his office to harrass or arrest people who are critical of him? Yeah, real great American there.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Wait- first they were Communists, then Fascists, then Marxists, THEN Socialists...

Which is it?

They come in all those flavors, and others. And all of those flavors are lumped into a single, convenient category (centralists) that can be readily identified by their willingness to surrender the freedoms of others to pursue their own ideals or welfare, or get something for "free"
They can often be readily identified by their complete disregard for empyrical evidence and willingness to believe hopelessly optimistic versions of history that support their beliefs, if they know anything about it at all.
The most dangerous types are the "Academic Centralist" and the "Idiot Centralist"
The academic centralist has a vast arsenal of university schooling that makes him feel superior. He can be identified by his complete lack of touch with reality in almost every sense of the word. Statements common to an Academic Centralist would include things like "we should all drive electric cars" or "The (<variable> industry) needs more regulation"
Obviously these people have yet to experience enough of real life to realize that they are supporting a monopoly with legislative power, which is infinitely more dangerous than an industry monopoly, assuming that the state has very limited power. They don't even know that they are supporters of Plutocracy, in many cases. And if they do know it, they are even more dangerous.

The "Idiot Centralist" is just some peon who actually believes that some of other peoples money can, and should, be given to him. In addition to the failings of the Academic Socialist, his complete and utter lack of understanding beyond what is spoon-fed to him by mass media is appalling. This type can be easily identified by their complete failure to responsibly plan their lives and constant demand for compensation. They are weak, individually, but in great, great, numbers they can pose a real threat, because some of them actually vote, and many more of them are very vocal about their opinions, though they can rarely be bothered to do anything about it.

One last category I will mention is the "Compassionate Centralist". Not as dangerous as the aforementioned, but still a threat to personal liberty. These people believe that ignorance, suffering, and death exsist in the world because those of us that don't live in disease and famine-ridden hellholes are either unaware of these events or don't care. In many cases, they honestly believe that they and like-minded indiviuals are the only ones who know about and are fighting for their cause.
Reasoning and logic bounce off them like Nerf arrows. They have either never heard of the term "incentive" or simply do not understand it. They think that economics is a zero-sum game and that the world's limited wealth should be divided more equally. They often contribute to charitable efforts, which they should be commended for, but they also seek to lobby legislation that forces others to give as well. A surefire test is to tell the suspected individual that foreign aid to impoverished African countries creates more problems than it solves, because it exacerbates the population crisis there. If they start blabbing about humanitarian efforts or "the children", you've got yourself a Compassionate Centralist.

Centralists come in many more types than just these, of course, but collectively, they can be generally identified by their belief that they know what is best for others.

On the flip-side, individualists (catch-all term, again) take responsibility for themselves, and encourage others to do the same, even if it is to that person's detriment. Individualists are often charitable, because they tend to do well. They have personal initiative and refuse to be "victimized". They can be identified by their attempts to get a solid grip on their own affairs, and their lack of whining about being treated unfairly.
Of course, they can be dangerous as well, especially if given excessive legislative power, as they tend to take advantage of it.

Any type of person is liable to take advantage of power if it is given to them. Monopolistic power is the most dangerous. There is a reason that the saying "Power Corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely." has endured.
What we need is a government that is strictly regulated by harsh Constitutional authority, enforced by an armed populace that is very protective of their freedoms. We had a system like that once, but the Federalists crushed it in the Civil War.
Perhaps it is time to reassert the authority of the American people.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

If it involves the Democrats, he automatically has a disagreement with it.

<smacking head> Ah. Forgot what website I was on for a moment. Thanks for setting my straight on this.

[Enigma]

[Sea Demon]

My problem with this stems from the fact that Sheriff Joe is following the law by doing his duty in enforcing the law. And protecting the citizens of his community. While some of his tactics are harsh, I support his commitment to protecting the people of his state and the USA in general. Bottom line, most people who are illegal aliens in his state are Hispanic. I am a person with Hispanic blood myself. And while I don't believe Hispanics should be at the mercy of jack booted/kick down your front door illegal search tactics, It stands to reason that Joe is going to confront many illegal aliens in communities where many Hispanics reside. That said, Joe is not going around kicking in doors, and dragging people out of them. That is simply BS brought forth by left-wing agitators that reside in MALDEF and the ACLU. I live in California, and those of us that chose to vote to protect the state's taxpayers from paying undue and unconstitutional benefits for people illegaly residing in our state were called racists, and all other nonsense by these same agitators. Sorry, but that was not my or most voters intentions. These same groups also have said in no uncertain terms that checking a persons legal status before receiving state benefits would be racial profiling despite the fact that all people of all races would be checked. Utter nonsense driven by left-wing foolishness. But yet, those measures might have helped prevent California from going into economic ruin.

These looney notions brought forth by the illegal aliens and their aiders and abetters is a disgrace. These people who bring these charges that Hispanics are being racially profiled is completely without merit. If you are here legally, and law abiding, then what's the problem? Absolutely none. And Sheriff Joe isn't going to do anything to you. Look, I can certainly understand and be sensitive to the impropriety of being targeted due to race as that's a clear violation of an individual's civil rights. But there is nothing wrong with checking a person's legal right to be there if they end up in jail or demand state benefits...for instance. To me, these people are just going after another person who's determined to protect his community, who's doing his job by enforcing the law, and all because they have failed at the federal level. This case looks to be yet another in a series of politically motivated cases against Americans who want border integrity, sensible immigration, and American sovereignty upheld.

[Neptunus Rex]

Originally Posted by Platapus

I am afraid I am not following you. What's wrong with an investigation to see if racial profiling is being used in the enforcement of federal laws?

Sounds to me like they are doing what they are supposed to be doing.....conducting an investigation and getting the facts.

Especially since last year the Mayor of Phoenix evidently has the same concerns.

What exactly is the problem you have with this?

Read the article. The Senators are calling for an investigation. There are no actual complaints against the guy or his deputies. If there are no complaints, then it's political motivation.

Gee, could it be media reports?