Race for the Arctic - hot war in no longer frozen hell?

Skybird · 01-30-09, 12:14 AM

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...604338,00.html
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...579265,00.html

The future looks exciting. Natural ressources are a prime argument why to expect wars in the future. Different to my usual, more relaxed stand regarding Russia, here I would agree that one needs to keep them under tight surveillance - not as if western powers wouldn't also aggressively push into the Arctic, but still...

UnderseaLcpl · 01-30-09, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

The future looks exciting. Natural resources are a prime argument why to expect wars in the future.

As opposed to limited resources not being a factor in the wars of the past?

Skybird · 01-30-09, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

The future looks exciting. Natural resources are a prime argument why to expect wars in the future.

As opposed to limited resources not being a factor in the wars of the past?

Don't many people think we live in an age of peace and big wars between the major powers have become unimaginable? western-Eastern-Chinese wars over borderlines and ideologies - are unlikely,sure. Wars between these powers over gasfields and sweet water reservoirs and oil - that is something different.

Such wars in the future are not a given. But they are a reasonable possibility of how the future could turn out. Hot proxy wars about these and other ressources, all three of them, already are being fought, in Africa (ores), South America (genetic and pharmaceutical ressources, oil, ores) and the Middle East (sweet water, oil).

A Very Super Market · 01-30-09, 01:57 AM

All the better reason to stop our rampant population growth.

August · 01-30-09, 08:54 AM

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All the better reason to stop our rampant population growth.

It seems that every argument comes back to overpopulation.

Hitman · 01-30-09, 09:34 AM

Of course. Overpopulation is behind most of our problems, for example that race to the Arctic resources. Would we need them if there were only 100 million humans in the whole earth? Obviously not.

Many of the current thrid world countries wouldn't see poverty and hunger at all if their population had a reasonable size. But they don't, and there do many problems begin.

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Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Of course. Overpopulation is behind most of our problems, for example that race to the Arctic resources. Would we need them if there were only 100 million humans in the whole earth? Obviously not. Many of the current thrid world countries wouldn't see poverty and hunger at all if their population had a reasonable size. But they don't, and there do many problems begin. __________________ One day I will return to sea ...