Some info on the cheese-eating surrender monkeys

stabiz · 01-25-09, 03:29 PM

According to historian Niall Ferguson:

Of the 168 major European wars fought since 1495, France was involved in 50. (Austria 47, England 43)

Of 168 French battles fought since 308 BC, the French won 109, lost 49 and 10 were considered a draw.

Thats pretty good stats!

01-25-09, 03:37 PM

How many by KO?

edit. I remember when I visited the war museum at the 'Hotel for the Invalides' in Paris. It's a pretty impressive place, row after row after row of French military gear from their history. And on top of all that they had a huge navy for a long time.

TarJak · 01-25-09, 03:49 PM

One has to remember that England became a French colony after 1066.

XabbaRus · 01-25-09, 06:59 PM

Actually the Normans weren't really French, Normans come from Norsemen so more like Vikings....

We then split from them anyway and more than enough times kicked their backsides.

I think the funniest thing was a bunch of French academics wanting Agincourt classified as a war crime.....

Torplexed · 01-25-09, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stabiz

According to historian Niall Ferguson:

Of the 168 major European wars fought since 1495, France was involved in 50. (Austria 47, England 43)

Of 168 French battles fought since 308 BC, the French won 109, lost 49 and 10 were considered a draw.

Thats pretty good stats!

Have to give some of that credit to a certain Corsican general.

A Very Super Market · 01-25-09, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

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Originally Posted by stabiz

According to historian Niall Ferguson:

Of the 168 major European wars fought since 1495, France was involved in 50. (Austria 47, England 43)

Of 168 French battles fought since 308 BC, the French won 109, lost 49 and 10 were considered a draw.

Thats pretty good stats!

Have to give some of that credit to a certain Corsican general.

The only time when France scored consistent victories was when they were lead by an Italian! :rotfl: (PS I know that Corsica is part of France)

The number of wars doesn't really have to do with the topic, since France was basicly the central European power ('Till Deutschland came around). And England constantly changed hands before the Normans, so yeah.

France wasn't completely useless during WWII. Their North African colonial men did will in Italy and France '44 and '45. It's only because of the admittedly horrible defence in '40 that we think of them as useless, cheese-addicted, funny-speaking, smug and ugly bastards.

Torplexed · 01-25-09, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

France wasn't completely useless during WWII. Their North African colonial men did will in Italy and France '44 and '45. It's only because of the admittedly horrible defence in '40 that we think of them as useless, cheese-addicted, funny-speaking, smug and ugly bastards.

Yeah...that defeat has it's roots in the long ugly war of attrition on the Western Front in WWI. Seeing the Germans advance so rapidly after all their pre-war plans to keep the next war off French soil just seemed to cause something to snap in the French High Command.

Onkel Neal · 01-26-09, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

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Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

France wasn't completely useless during WWII. Their North African colonial men did will in Italy and France '44 and '45. It's only because of the admittedly horrible defence in '40 that we think of them as useless, cheese-addicted, funny-speaking, smug and ugly bastards.

Yeah...that defeat has it's roots in the long ugly war of attrition on the Western Front in WWI. Seeing the Germans advance so rapidly after all their pre-war plans to keep the next war off French soil just seemed to cause something to snap in the French High Command.

Agreed. In WWII, France was not "useless", just beaten. It happened to Poland and Norway and almost to Russia and Britian.

TarJak · 01-26-09, 04:25 AM

Not too mention the Italians dominating most of Europe for around 1000 years.

Kapt Z · 01-25-09, 08:15 PM

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France wasn't completely useless during WWII. Their North African colonial men did will in Italy and France '44 and '45. It's only because of the admittedly horrible defence in '40 that we think of them as useless, cheese-addicted, funny-speaking, smug and ugly bastards.[/quote]

I think any nation in France's position in 1940 would probably have had their clocks cleaned by the Germans with their Blitzkrieg bop. Britain was saved by the channel, the Russians by, well, Russia and US by the Atlantic.

Dan D · 01-25-09, 09:19 PM

The Battle of Austerlitz, anyone?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Austerlitz
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=P_7r6a_gvgg

"Got a hand in my pocket and it's showing up through my pants...". (Iggy & The Stooges). That is just for the punk rockers out there.

Torplexed · 01-25-09, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan D

The Battle of Austerlitz, anyone?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Austerlitz
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=P_7r6a_gvgg

That Corsican general again. :p

Let's see Napoleon wasn't French, he was Corsican.

Hitler wasn't German, he was Austrian.

Stalin wasn't Russian, he was a Georgian.

Interesting pattern.:hmm: Don't know if it means anything.

01-25-09, 03:29 PM	#1
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Some info on the cheese-eating surrender monkeys According to historian Niall Ferguson: Of the 168 major European wars fought since 1495, France was involved in 50. (Austria 47, England 43) Of 168 French battles fought since 308 BC, the French won 109, lost 49 and 10 were considered a draw. Thats pretty good stats! __________________

01-25-09, 06:59 PM	#4
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Actually the Normans weren't really French, Normans come from Norsemen so more like Vikings.... We then split from them anyway and more than enough times kicked their backsides. I think the funniest thing was a bunch of French academics wanting Agincourt classified as a war crime..... __________________

01-25-09, 03:37 PM	#2
OneToughHerring Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	How many by KO? edit. I remember when I visited the war museum at the 'Hotel for the Invalides' in Paris. It's a pretty impressive place, row after row after row of French military gear from their history. And on top of all that they had a huge navy for a long time.

01-25-09, 03:49 PM	#3
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	One has to remember that England became a French colony after 1066.

01-26-09, 04:25 AM	#9
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Not too mention the Italians dominating most of Europe for around 1000 years.

01-25-09, 08:15 PM	#10
Kapt Z Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ...somewhere in the swamps of Jersey. Posts: 909 Downloads: 157 Uploads: 0	[/quote] France wasn't completely useless during WWII. Their North African colonial men did will in Italy and France '44 and '45. It's only because of the admittedly horrible defence in '40 that we think of them as useless, cheese-addicted, funny-speaking, smug and ugly bastards.[/quote] I think any nation in France's position in 1940 would probably have had their clocks cleaned by the Germans with their Blitzkrieg bop. Britain was saved by the channel, the Russians by, well, Russia and US by the Atlantic.

01-25-09, 09:19 PM	#11
Dan D Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: 9th Flotilla Posts: 839 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The Battle of Austerlitz, anyone? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Austerlitz http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=P_7r6a_gvgg "Got a hand in my pocket and it's showing up through my pants...". (Iggy & The Stooges). That is just for the punk rockers out there.