What do you do with them neutrals?

BasilY · 01-17-09, 01:22 PM

I have gotten wind on this forum that some uboatman are attacking neutral ships diliberately

, even before the war is even started. I don't know if I am the only one who find this just a bit disturbing.

For myself, I do my upmost to prevent sinking neutral ships. Even when in a convoy, I will not attack any ship possitively IDed as neutral. (them neutrals are really abusing the previlage of being neutrals

). It's not un-common for me to spend hours chasing a sound contact only to discover they are neutral when I got into perfect firing position.

While I have sunk a number of neutral ships. I firmly believe in each case the victim is at fault, (either they are in a convoy protected by RN that I have to attack at long range) or they didn't illuminate at night.

But this is a game. So to each their own...

Jimbuna · 01-17-09, 02:22 PM

I always leave them well alone

kranz · 01-17-09, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I always leave them well alone

then you are not a real pirate and make Fuhrer sad

nikbear · 01-17-09, 02:55 PM

I'm still not to sure what to do with Neutrals who are not lit and heading to the UK,In the Bdu message's you get sent during the start of the war it tells you they are to be sunk,but the messages are just for immersion right:hmm:?If you do that ingame you lose renown,correct?:hmm:So what to do?

Jimbuna · 01-17-09, 02:59 PM

It depends on how much value you place on renown

Weiss Pinguin · 01-17-09, 05:19 PM

I usually leave them alone. My renown is going into my Type IX fund, so every little bit I save helps

01-25-09, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

It depends on how much value you place on renown

Sink the devils! I just jump back in the game codes and reapply the lost renown

BasilY · 01-17-09, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nikbear

I'm still not to sure what to do with Neutrals who are not lit and heading to the UK,In the Bdu message's you get sent during the start of the war it tells you they are to be sunk,but the messages are just for immersion right:hmm:?If you do that ingame you lose renown,correct?:hmm:So what to do?

During the real war, having a neutral flag doesn't necessarily give a ship protection. Here are some (only the one I know off) of the exceptions,

If said neutral ship is in a belligerent convoy;
If they refuse to stop for inspection by a belligerent warship;
If contraband material are found upon inspections.

I SH3, however, neutral is neutral, even when their decks are loaded with tanks headed to England. (I have seen that too)

Erich dem Roten · 01-17-09, 05:15 PM

I always leave them alone on the open sea or in convoys; I try to follow the restrictions given as real captains had to. However, in my port raiding days, I would sometimes make a decision that led me to attacking a neutral, e.g. American troop transports docked in British ports. Can't fool me :p

peterloo · 01-18-09, 05:44 AM

I play this realistically, i.e. I don't sink them as long as they don't report my position or fire at me

01-18-09, 05:54 AM

Neutral is neutral. I'm always leting them go.
Exclusions can be made if neutrals are sailing in enemy escorted convoys. And attacked by mistake.

U-104 · 01-18-09, 06:29 AM

in a convoy dead!

on their own let go.

Stingray67 · 01-18-09, 07:34 AM

If I could stop and search them (at least early in the war) I would and let them go, sink them or take them as prize.

As I can't I leave them alone if sailing singly, lit up or not.

In convoy with the allies I consider that they have waived all claim to neutrality and consider them valid targets.

I, mostly, don't consider renown lost or won regardning this.

nikimcbee · 01-18-09, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by U-104

in a convoy dead!

on their own let go.

me too.

Convoy=guilt

A Very Super Market · 01-19-09, 12:11 AM

I sink any neutrals from countries known to be helping our enemies. Only at night though, so I can have some excuse for Doenitz.

View Poll Results: How you deal with neutral vessals?
Sink them all!	3	4.17%
Sink them all! But only during war. (09/39-05-45)	4	5.56%
everything but chrismas trees	1	1.39%
Anything but those from my favorite nation (i.e. Greek, insert your own)	1	1.39%
Will attacked unless pissitively excluded.	1	1.39%
Will ID if possible, but all bet's off if visibility is bad	11	15.28%
Only ships possitively IDed or in allied convoy	22	30.56%
Only ships possitively IDed	29	40.28%
Voters: 72. You may not vote on this poll

01-17-09, 01:22 PM	#1
BasilY Weps Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 359 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	What do you do with them neutrals? I have gotten wind on this forum that some uboatman are attacking neutral ships diliberately, even before the war is even started. I don't know if I am the only one who find this just a bit disturbing. For myself, I do my upmost to prevent sinking neutral ships. Even when in a convoy, I will not attack any ship possitively IDed as neutral. (them neutrals are really abusing the previlage of being neutrals). It's not un-common for me to spend hours chasing a sound contact only to discover they are neutral when I got into perfect firing position. While I have sunk a number of neutral ships. I firmly believe in each case the victim is at fault, (either they are in a convoy protected by RN that I have to attack at long range) or they didn't illuminate at night. But this is a game. So to each their own...

01-17-09, 02:22 PM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I always leave them well alone __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-17-09, 02:55 PM	#4
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	I'm still not to sure what to do with Neutrals who are not lit and heading to the UK,In the Bdu message's you get sent during the start of the war it tells you they are to be sunk,but the messages are just for immersion right:hmm:?If you do that ingame you lose renown,correct?:hmm:So what to do? __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

01-17-09, 02:59 PM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	It depends on how much value you place on renown __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-17-09, 05:19 PM	#6
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	I usually leave them alone. My renown is going into my Type IX fund, so every little bit I save helps __________________

01-17-09, 05:15 PM	#9
Erich dem Roten Electrician's Mate Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 134 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	I always leave them alone on the open sea or in convoys; I try to follow the restrictions given as real captains had to. However, in my port raiding days, I would sometimes make a decision that led me to attacking a neutral, e.g. American troop transports docked in British ports. Can't fool me :p __________________

01-18-09, 05:44 AM	#10
peterloo Commander Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 462 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I play this realistically, i.e. I don't sink them as long as they don't report my position or fire at me __________________ Romeo is here, but where is Juliet? The 中国水兵 (Chinese Sailor) in subsim

01-18-09, 05:54 AM	#11
Contact Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Neutral is neutral. I'm always leting them go. Exclusions can be made if neutrals are sailing in enemy escorted convoys. And attacked by mistake.

01-18-09, 06:29 AM	#12
U-104 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: United States Posts: 797 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 0	in a convoy dead! on their own let go. __________________ My heart is steadfast, O God. I will sing and make music with all my soul. Ps. 108:1 Survival of the fittest does not explain arrival of the fittest. we live in a single spoken sentence.. "God said, let there be"

01-18-09, 07:34 AM	#13
Stingray67 Seaman Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 34 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	If I could stop and search them (at least early in the war) I would and let them go, sink them or take them as prize. As I can't I leave them alone if sailing singly, lit up or not. In convoy with the allies I consider that they have waived all claim to neutrality and consider them valid targets. I, mostly, don't consider renown lost or won regardning this. __________________ If you think education is expensive, try ignorance!

01-19-09, 12:11 AM	#15
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I sink any neutrals from countries known to be helping our enemies. Only at night though, so I can have some excuse for Doenitz. __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!