Photo Recon Mission

JALU3 · 12-24-08, 06:03 AM

So I have this Photo Recon Mission in Palua . . . and I am coming from the south, from the deep end, at 1/2 knt, well below the thermal layer (150 ft) @ 190, and regardless of what I try, I am always spotted, usually from an active ping when the pass over me, even when I come to a dead stop, when they are over me, with silent runing on they still here me.
I am running 1.4 stock.
What am I doing wrong?
Should I just do it from the shallows from the opposite end, and forget attempting to damage the Yamato that I know is awating my picture?

Hmuda · 12-24-08, 07:09 AM

Did you rig silent running? Just a thought. I'm no expert, so that's all I can think of. Of course if they ping 24/7, they are bound to find you sooner or later.

Diopos · 12-24-08, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JALU3

So I have this Photo Recon Mission in Palua . . . and I am coming from the south, from the deep end, at 1/2 knt, well below the thermal layer (150 ft) @ 190, and regardless of what I try, I am always spotted, usually from an active ping when the pass over me, even when I come to a dead stop, when they are over me, with silent runing on they still here me.
I am running 1.4 stock.
What am I doing wrong?
Should I just do it from the shallows from the opposite end, and forget attempting to damage the Yamato that I know is awating my picture?

Active pinging does not necessarily mean that you're located. Active pinging and an abrupt change in the DD's course towards your position ... mmm things are getting tough but there is still the possibility to manouver with slow speed + silent running + thermal layer, trying to minimize your sub's profile towards the DD (this means that sometimes you may find yourself actually moving head on towards the DD). When it's on top of you can still make a hard turn (preferably 90 degs relative to the DD's course) at flank speed. Coming to a dead stop with a DD in your immediate vincinity is not a good idea and more so if it's pinging.

Coming in from the deep end and slow is logical. But before you go "in" try to analyze the situation. Are the DDs moving in a pattern? Spend sometime on your sonar or your periscope to find out.

As I said coming from the deep end is ok but it wont be "deep" all the way to the port! So you must be certain about the depth "profile" of your approach. Using your subs bathymeter, to find how close you are to the sea floor, in the vincinity of DDs would be suicidal in a real life situation (it is an active sonar device). Most "experienced" players avoid it but I remember a post saying that this effect is not modelled in the game! Were you using your bathymeter?

Eventually you can always go to periscope depth, sink em all and then take your photos at your own pace!

Soundman · 12-24-08, 08:44 AM

Iv'e had this problem before too. If you aren't already, time your entrance to be at night and you may be able to skirt around them when they are at the far end of their sweep. If that's not possible, as stated above, you might have to sink it/them.

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Should I just do it from the shallows from the opposite end, and forget attempting to damage the Yamato that I know is awating my picture?

Ah, didn't catch that first time around. Man, that is hard to resist huh?

JALU3 · 12-24-08, 02:15 PM

as stated in the op, it is(silent running) set, and i was travelling at 1/2 knt, 190 ft, 30 feet under the thermal layer.

i was unaware that a visual bathymeter was available in stock 1.4, as it was in sh2. i was on the the south end of their patrol loop, and was attempting to get within maximum distance to get the photo shot, with a damaging shot from the aft torpedoes more as an after shot.

after much consideration, I will just come from the shallows on the east end, to get the photo, and the mission done, and the patrol over with. maybe that is for the best.

zinosumatra · 12-24-08, 02:25 PM

Your stated depth is correct to gain maximum benefit from the sonic layer. However, if the enemy units using active sonar are right on top of you, the transmitted sound does not refract effectively, rendering your tactical positioning useless. Best to keep at least 1k yards of horizontal separation.

12-24-08, 06:03 AM	#1
JALU3 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: 11SMS 98896 10565 Posts: 756 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Photo Recon Mission So I have this Photo Recon Mission in Palua . . . and I am coming from the south, from the deep end, at 1/2 knt, well below the thermal layer (150 ft) @ 190, and regardless of what I try, I am always spotted, usually from an active ping when the pass over me, even when I come to a dead stop, when they are over me, with silent runing on they still here me. I am running 1.4 stock. What am I doing wrong? Should I just do it from the shallows from the opposite end, and forget attempting to damage the Yamato that I know is awating my picture? __________________ "The Federation needs men like you, doctor. Men of conscience. Men of principle. Men who can sleep at night... You're also the reason Section Thirty-one exists -- someone has to protect men like you from a universe that doesn't share your sense of right and wrong." -Sloan, Section Thirty-One

12-24-08, 02:15 PM	#5
JALU3 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: 11SMS 98896 10565 Posts: 756 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	as stated in the op, it is(silent running) set, and i was travelling at 1/2 knt, 190 ft, 30 feet under the thermal layer. i was unaware that a visual bathymeter was available in stock 1.4, as it was in sh2. i was on the the south end of their patrol loop, and was attempting to get within maximum distance to get the photo shot, with a damaging shot from the aft torpedoes more as an after shot. after much consideration, I will just come from the shallows on the east end, to get the photo, and the mission done, and the patrol over with. maybe that is for the best. __________________ "The Federation needs men like you, doctor. Men of conscience. Men of principle. Men who can sleep at night... You're also the reason Section Thirty-one exists -- someone has to protect men like you from a universe that doesn't share your sense of right and wrong." -Sloan, Section Thirty-One

12-24-08, 07:09 AM	#2
Hmuda Electrician's Mate Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 133 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Did you rig silent running? Just a thought. I'm no expert, so that's all I can think of. Of course if they ping 24/7, they are bound to find you sooner or later.

12-24-08, 02:25 PM	#6
zinosumatra Watch Join Date: May 2008 Location: Indy, IN Posts: 27 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Your stated depth is correct to gain maximum benefit from the sonic layer. However, if the enemy units using active sonar are right on top of you, the transmitted sound does not refract effectively, rendering your tactical positioning useless. Best to keep at least 1k yards of horizontal separation.