Are they trying to make Iraq look like a Crusade? Christmas in Iraq.

subchaser12 · 12-21-08, 06:50 PM

Wow, if this picture of Jesus hanging off the palm trees and santa doesn't enrage the muslim world I'm not sure what will.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/...mas/index.html

baggygreen · 12-21-08, 07:08 PM

an image of Mohammed standing beneath it??

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More seriously though, aren't a large number of Iraqis christians anyway? Not in terms of population, I know they're a minority, but in numerical terms I thought there were several million, all of whom were permitted to celebrate xmas before?

Also, does Xmas appear on the islamic calendar as a holiday? I know they revere jesus as a prophet, but do they celebrate his 'birth' as they do for many other prophets? Or, for that matter, easter, to they pause to remember their prophet's death?

Skybird · 12-21-08, 08:40 PM

wjhat was it about multi-culturalism, tolerance and equal rights for memebers of other cultures? Always demanded from the West, always ruled out in Islamic countries?

Christians had been forced out of the country by the many tens of thousands, and even more have become victim to massive violance and supression in the past years. Germany planned to accept several thousand Christian refugees to save them from Muslim prosecution and serious violant threats to life. The political left and the "humanists" and well-meaning politically over-correct preachers of one-sided multi-culturalism immediately protested and said that were a discrimination of Muhammedanism (that is commiting these crimes). The last thing I heared was that Germany would accept a counter-balanced share of non-Christian Iraqi Muslims for each Iraqi Christian it takes.

Christianity is under constant supression and constant reduction (of community sizes) in almost all Muslims countries, since always. That the discrimination of Jews and Christians by Quranic rule is mandatory maybe has something to do with it!?

American troops for the most are christians, formally or real, and they are there in nthat place, like it or not. As long as they do not impose their cultural standards onto the locals, I honestly give sh!t for whether or not Iraqis like them to have a christmas mass or display a santa claus in their camp. If they find it offending then take it as a simple lesson about what Islam thinks about that multiculturalism that is so precious to us and that is always constantly demanded from us, one-sided, without a reciprocal response from Islamic nations.

Aramike · 12-21-08, 08:52 PM

Good post Skybird. I agree 100%.

Rockstar · 12-21-08, 09:57 PM

Yes must be careful not to share a meal a toy, or fellowship. Otherwise they might take people out back to the old stadium and put a bullet through their skull for doing such evil things. Oh wait thats for reserved for women who want an education. All others loose your head by the sword. Yes we mustn't ENRAGE them now.

1480 · 12-21-08, 11:58 PM

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Many of the people attending the Christmas celebration appear to be Muslims, with women wearing head scarves. Suad Mahmoud, holding her 16-month-old daughter, Sara, tells me she is indeed Muslim, but she's very happy to be here. "My mother's birthday also is this month, so we celebrate all occasions," she says, "especially in this lovely month of Christmas and New Year."

Why don't you read the article that is attached to the photo..... I'm shocked CNN found a Muslim who was not offended by the display, that's amazing.

Stealth Hunter · 12-22-08, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by subchaser12

Wow, if this picture of Jesus hanging off the palm trees and santa doesn't enrage the muslim world I'm not sure what will.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/...mas/index.html

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You do know that Islam acknowledges Jesus, right? Not as the son of god, but still as a powerful and wise man.

12-21-08, 06:50 PM	#1
subchaser12 Sonar Guy Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Spam, duplicate accounts, provoking moderators. Posts: 377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Are they trying to make Iraq look like a Crusade? Christmas in Iraq. Wow, if this picture of Jesus hanging off the palm trees and santa doesn't enrage the muslim world I'm not sure what will. http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/...mas/index.html Last edited by subchaser12; 12-21-08 at 06:51 PM.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,630 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	wjhat was it about multi-culturalism, tolerance and equal rights for memebers of other cultures? Always demanded from the West, always ruled out in Islamic countries? Christians had been forced out of the country by the many tens of thousands, and even more have become victim to massive violance and supression in the past years. Germany planned to accept several thousand Christian refugees to save them from Muslim prosecution and serious violant threats to life. The political left and the "humanists" and well-meaning politically over-correct preachers of one-sided multi-culturalism immediately protested and said that were a discrimination of Muhammedanism (that is commiting these crimes). The last thing I heared was that Germany would accept a counter-balanced share of non-Christian Iraqi Muslims for each Iraqi Christian it takes. Christianity is under constant supression and constant reduction (of community sizes) in almost all Muslims countries, since always. That the discrimination of Jews and Christians by Quranic rule is mandatory maybe has something to do with it!? American troops for the most are christians, formally or real, and they are there in nthat place, like it or not. As long as they do not impose their cultural standards onto the locals, I honestly give sh!t for whether or not Iraqis like them to have a christmas mass or display a santa claus in their camp. If they find it offending then take it as a simple lesson about what Islam thinks about that multiculturalism that is so precious to us and that is always constantly demanded from us, one-sided, without a reciprocal response from Islamic nations. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 12-21-08 at 08:43 PM.

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baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	an image of Mohammed standing beneath it?? . More seriously though, aren't a large number of Iraqis christians anyway? Not in terms of population, I know they're a minority, but in numerical terms I thought there were several million, all of whom were permitted to celebrate xmas before? Also, does Xmas appear on the islamic calendar as a holiday? I know they revere jesus as a prophet, but do they celebrate his 'birth' as they do for many other prophets? Or, for that matter, easter, to they pause to remember their prophet's death?

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Aramike Ocean Warrior Best of SUBSIM Chairman Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 3,207 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Good post Skybird. I agree 100%.

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Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Yes must be careful not to share a meal a toy, or fellowship. Otherwise they might take people out back to the old stadium and put a bullet through their skull for doing such evil things. Oh wait thats for reserved for women who want an education. All others loose your head by the sword. Yes we mustn't ENRAGE them now.