Missing Ship Lengths in Recognition Manual

stringue · 12-01-08, 06:20 PM

I found I could not calculate ship speed without this data, I also have the jewel case DVD so I am missing any hardcopy of the manual.

I am using SH4 1.5 with TMO 1.52 and SCAF 1.5 for that version, a forum search showed no ship length data for this combination - but some1 posted a version where they tagged on the length to the ship names - so I did the same for this setup.

I made it for personal use but I figure some1 might find it handy so here it is
- USE AT OWN RISK! -
Copy the names.cfg file to Data/Roster directory making a BACKUP of the existing names.cfg

http://rapidshare.com/files/171706761/names.cfg.html
http://www.filefactory.com/file/76618d/n/names_cfg
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S4SNYAIM

Like I say it was for personal use so if theres any inaccuracies etc just change them yourself

Oh the cfg stuff was in meters so I changed it to feet but rounded off the decimal points I haven't really tested it yet but I hit the cruiser and the junks ok so I guess some of the numbers are ok. Open office was used to suck apart the original file - I can't guarantee it put it back together again ok.

EDIT: changed download to (L: xx ft) to match the rfb names cfg a few posts below and to better squeeze in next to long ship names.

vanjast · 12-02-08, 02:14 AM

Nice...
I let ya all on a little secret... In the game optics (visuals), the vertical scale is NOT linear. IOW top of mast measurements will be different at diffferent ranges

WHEREAS.. the horizontal scale is more linear (kinda stupid isn't it), so measuring the length of a ship is consistent over any range. If the AOB <> 90 ..well - simple trig sorts that out.

Nisgeis · 12-02-08, 05:46 AM

Very nice Stringue! Welcome aboard by the way.

stringue · 12-03-08, 08:48 AM

The same again with the data taken from Real Fleet Boat 1.52;

Names.cfg with ship lengths (L: xx ft) apended to names RFB 1.52 :
http://rapidshare.com/files/169848977/Names.cfg.html
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NLEJ2IJY
http://www.filefactory.com/file/7402f2/n/Names_cfg

data was taken from cfg files in sea directory via rather hurried copy/paste, then converted to feet and finally back to names - any innacuracys will need editing yourself! Decimal points were rounded to nearest 1.

stringue · 12-03-08, 10:52 AM

Thanks for showing that Vanjast, I don't know what to do then

The length for the iowa in nbb_iowa.cfg was listed as 270.4 and I multiplied that by roughly 3.28 (there was a longer figure on the net i used) and got 887.

Wikipedia lists the iowa as 890, it seems rather dissapointing that the ship model is 971 ft .

I personally would like a length figure in the recognition manual to aid in finding speed, perhaps in time the larger mods or some1 else (please!) could incorporate this - or better yet accurate proportioned 3d models and length data.

vanjast · 12-03-08, 11:00 AM

I've done a few more tests and found that the view angle is correct in the original Stock scope, but rescaling the scope and zoom does not rescale the ship's as well... :hmm:

Back to the drawing board...

Sorry for that one . keep the lengths as you have them.
I'll delete the above post..

12-01-08, 06:20 PM	#1
stringue Nub Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Missing Ship Lengths in Recognition Manual I found I could not calculate ship speed without this data, I also have the jewel case DVD so I am missing any hardcopy of the manual. I am using SH4 1.5 with TMO 1.52 and SCAF 1.5 for that version, a forum search showed no ship length data for this combination - but some1 posted a version where they tagged on the length to the ship names - so I did the same for this setup. I made it for personal use but I figure some1 might find it handy so here it is - USE AT OWN RISK! - Copy the names.cfg file to Data/Roster directory making a BACKUP of the existing names.cfg http://rapidshare.com/files/171706761/names.cfg.html http://www.filefactory.com/file/76618d/n/names_cfg http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S4SNYAIM Like I say it was for personal use so if theres any inaccuracies etc just change them yourself Oh the cfg stuff was in meters so I changed it to feet but rounded off the decimal points I haven't really tested it yet but I hit the cruiser and the junks ok so I guess some of the numbers are ok. Open office was used to suck apart the original file - I can't guarantee it put it back together again ok. EDIT: changed download to (L: xx ft) to match the rfb names cfg a few posts below and to better squeeze in next to long ship names. Last edited by stringue; 12-09-08 at 05:10 AM.

12-02-08, 02:14 AM	#2
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,740 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	Nice... I let ya all on a little secret... In the game optics (visuals), the vertical scale is NOT linear. IOW top of mast measurements will be different at diffferent ranges WHEREAS.. the horizontal scale is more linear (kinda stupid isn't it), so measuring the length of a ship is consistent over any range. If the AOB <> 90 ..well - simple trig sorts that out. Last edited by vanjast; 12-02-08 at 02:18 AM.

12-02-08, 05:46 AM	#3
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	Very nice Stringue! Welcome aboard by the way. __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank.

12-03-08, 08:48 AM	#4
stringue Nub Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	The same again with the data taken from Real Fleet Boat 1.52; Names.cfg with ship lengths (L: xx ft) apended to names RFB 1.52 : http://rapidshare.com/files/169848977/Names.cfg.html http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NLEJ2IJY http://www.filefactory.com/file/7402f2/n/Names_cfg data was taken from cfg files in sea directory via rather hurried copy/paste, then converted to feet and finally back to names - any innacuracys will need editing yourself! Decimal points were rounded to nearest 1. Last edited by stringue; 12-03-08 at 09:15 AM.

12-03-08, 11:00 AM	#6
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,740 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	I've done a few more tests and found that the view angle is correct in the original Stock scope, but rescaling the scope and zoom does not rescale the ship's as well... :hmm: Back to the drawing board... Sorry for that one . keep the lengths as you have them. I'll delete the above post.. Last edited by vanjast; 12-03-08 at 11:01 AM.

12-03-08, 10:52 AM	#5
stringue Nub Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Thanks for showing that Vanjast, I don't know what to do then The length for the iowa in nbb_iowa.cfg was listed as 270.4 and I multiplied that by roughly 3.28 (there was a longer figure on the net i used) and got 887. Wikipedia lists the iowa as 890, it seems rather dissapointing that the ship model is 971 ft . I personally would like a length figure in the recognition manual to aid in finding speed, perhaps in time the larger mods or some1 else (please!) could incorporate this - or better yet accurate proportioned 3d models and length data.