Mumbai assessment

Rockstar · 11-29-08, 09:26 PM

Assessment:

It is obvious that the raid had the support and assistance of Pakistan’s ISI security services. The ISI is filled with covert supporters of either the Taliban or Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda. Until Pakistan’s overnight ‘conversion’ in 2003, the ISI was the Taliban’s liaison with the Pakistani government. The ISI supplied money, materiel, recruits and training to both al-Qaeda and the Taliban dating back to the 1980’s. But it is just as obvious that Pakistan didn’t plan to invade and capture Bombay with just ten guys. The raid on Bombay didn’t provide Pakistan or the ISI with anything of strategic value — just the satisfaction of inflicting harm on a hated enemy. But what it provided to al-Qaeda was invaluable. Bombay is India’s New York City. Some of the terrorists were already inside the harbor city; the rest infiltrated by boat with additional weapons and explosives. The terrorists were undoubtedly al-Qaeda affliates; their tactics were mujahadeen tactics; fight to the death inflicting as much damage as possible in the process. Their chosen victims were Westerners — particularly Americans - and Jews. During the campaign, Senator Joe Biden hinted darkly at a ‘test’ that will present itself to the Obama administration within six months of his taking office. Homeland Security is as prepared as it can be for attacks using airliners, dirty bombs, nuclear materials, etc.

But Mumbai, a city twice the size of New York City, was paralyzed by ten determined young men armed with nothing but small arms and field explosives for more than sixty hours. Why Mumbai? To see if it would work. Ten guys paralyzed the city for sixty hours and killed or wounded more than four hundred people. It was a tactical success. On January 20th, 2009, thousands upon thousands of people will be crowded into coastal Washington D.C. to attend the Obama inaugural.

Please join me in prayer that America’s defenders learned as much from the Mumbai massacre as America’s enemies did.

August · 11-30-08, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

Please join me in prayer that America’s defenders learned as much from the Mumbai massacre as America’s enemies did.

Sure, I can agree with this sentiment.

GoldenRivet · 12-01-08, 03:40 AM

the difference is - on January 20th there will be countless military and civilian security personnel waiting around every corner for something like that to happen.

point so much as a rude gesture and your going to draw attention.

point anything that resembles a weapon and your going to draw fire

caspofungin · 12-01-08, 07:01 PM

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It is obvious that the raid had the support and assistance of Pakistan’s ISI security services

that's a doozy of an assumption to make. why not wait until all the facts are in?

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Their chosen victims were Westerners — particularly Americans - and Jews.

their chosen victims? So far, of all the dead, there were 22 foreign nationals -- not just yanks, but candians, europeans, etc. the vast majority of the dead were indian.

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But Mumbai, a city twice the size of New York City, was paralyzed by ten determined young men armed with nothing but small arms and field explosives for more than sixty hours. Why Mumbai? To see if it would work.

more than ten guys. and also, i think it's unfair to compare the state of mumbai's security with that of washington dc -- mumbai was unprepared, the response was piecemeal and uncoordinated.

(edit for spelling)

Skybird · 12-01-08, 08:07 PM

The ISI's sympathy and assistance for Islamic terrorism is documented since decades. It dates back into the early 70s. The Pakistani military also has strong symoathies for Islamists, and namely the Taleban. They created them.

The intended choosen victims for which the assassins actively searched , were Jews, and owners of American and British passports. Says the surviving ratman, and is verified by eye witness reports. Ratman also said they aimed at killing as many people as possible.

India since long rates as a Satanic power for islamic terrorists, comparable to the role of America, since it is formally democratic by state system, and a strong oppositionto islamic attempts to raise Islamic influence in the region. It also is a dominant regional military power.

caspofungin · 12-01-08, 08:20 PM

How did the isi create the taleban?

11-29-08, 09:26 PM	#1
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Mumbai assessment Assessment: It is obvious that the raid had the support and assistance of Pakistan’s ISI security services. The ISI is filled with covert supporters of either the Taliban or Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda. Until Pakistan’s overnight ‘conversion’ in 2003, the ISI was the Taliban’s liaison with the Pakistani government. The ISI supplied money, materiel, recruits and training to both al-Qaeda and the Taliban dating back to the 1980’s. But it is just as obvious that Pakistan didn’t plan to invade and capture Bombay with just ten guys. The raid on Bombay didn’t provide Pakistan or the ISI with anything of strategic value — just the satisfaction of inflicting harm on a hated enemy. But what it provided to al-Qaeda was invaluable. Bombay is India’s New York City. Some of the terrorists were already inside the harbor city; the rest infiltrated by boat with additional weapons and explosives. The terrorists were undoubtedly al-Qaeda affliates; their tactics were mujahadeen tactics; fight to the death inflicting as much damage as possible in the process. Their chosen victims were Westerners — particularly Americans - and Jews. During the campaign, Senator Joe Biden hinted darkly at a ‘test’ that will present itself to the Obama administration within six months of his taking office. Homeland Security is as prepared as it can be for attacks using airliners, dirty bombs, nuclear materials, etc. But Mumbai, a city twice the size of New York City, was paralyzed by ten determined young men armed with nothing but small arms and field explosives for more than sixty hours. Why Mumbai? To see if it would work. Ten guys paralyzed the city for sixty hours and killed or wounded more than four hundred people. It was a tactical success. On January 20th, 2009, thousands upon thousands of people will be crowded into coastal Washington D.C. to attend the Obama inaugural. Please join me in prayer that America’s defenders learned as much from the Mumbai massacre as America’s enemies did. Last edited by Rockstar; 11-29-08 at 09:28 PM.

12-01-08, 03:40 AM	#3
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	the difference is - on January 20th there will be countless military and civilian security personnel waiting around every corner for something like that to happen. point so much as a rude gesture and your going to draw attention. point anything that resembles a weapon and your going to draw fire __________________

12-01-08, 08:07 PM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,620 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The ISI's sympathy and assistance for Islamic terrorism is documented since decades. It dates back into the early 70s. The Pakistani military also has strong symoathies for Islamists, and namely the Taleban. They created them. The intended choosen victims for which the assassins actively searched , were Jews, and owners of American and British passports. Says the surviving ratman, and is verified by eye witness reports. Ratman also said they aimed at killing as many people as possible. India since long rates as a Satanic power for islamic terrorists, comparable to the role of America, since it is formally democratic by state system, and a strong oppositionto islamic attempts to raise Islamic influence in the region. It also is a dominant regional military power. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 12-01-08 at 08:07 PM.

12-01-08, 08:20 PM	#6
caspofungin Commander Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 459 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	How did the isi create the taleban?