Pirate 'mother ship' left in flames

[MothBalls]

It's about time. While everyone debates who should do what, an Indian warship decided to take em out.

The skirmish took place Tuesday evening about 326 miles (525 kilometers) southwest of Oman's Salalah port when the frigate INS Tabar spotted a suspected pirate ship with two speedboats in tow, India's Defense Ministry reported.

"Pirates were seen roaming on the upper deck of this vessel with guns and rocket-propelled grenade launchers. The vessel continued its threatening calls and subsequently fired upon INS Tabar," the ministry said.

The Indian frigate returned fire, setting the pirate ship ablaze and setting off explosions on board, the statement said. Two speedboats in tow behind the ship fled; one was found abandoned after a pursuit by the Tabar.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa...ef=mpstoryview



Way to go. I still think all navies ROE on these guys should be kill on site. Forget the courts, send them into the abyss and they'll stop coming back.

[AVGWarhawk]

Just read this myself and good for them for sinking the 'mother ship'. If it were me, I would be eyeing the tanker with my cannons also. Let it burn and the 'pirates' go with it. Just setting precidence for the next one they take. Just sink'em. Maybe this is way I'm not in charge :hmm:

[SteamWake]

In its clash with the pirate vessel, the Tabar's crew hailed the ship and demanded it stop for inspection, and the pirates threatened to destroy the Indian ship, the ministry reported.

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Anyhow what are they freakin nuts? They must have thought they would not return fire.

[AVGWarhawk]

Image is working. Perhaps the pirates got a bit ahead of themselves as it was dark and really did not see the size of this Indian warship:rotfl: I'm telling ya man, take a ship, we sink it! Don't care who is on it or what is on it. Boom, gone.

[DeepIron]

A friend and I were talking about the pirating yesterday. This is our conclusion:

The ocean is a very large place as bodies of water go and it would be hard to find pirate bodies in it.

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Just read this myself and good for them for sinking the 'mother ship'. If it were me, I would be eyeing the tanker with my cannons also. Let it burn and the 'pirates' go with it. Just setting precidence for the next one they take. Just sink'em. Maybe this is way I'm not in charge :hmm:

This would just cause a catastrophic oil spill that would affect thousands of people (not to mention animals). I don't know if that's a great idea.:hmm:

@Topic

I somehow have trouble believing that some ill equipped pirates would take on a navy frigate.
But it sounds much better than: Frigate opened fire without warning and sent the bastards to hell.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

This would just cause a catastrophic oil spill that would affect thousands of people (not to mention animals). I don't know if that's a great idea.:hmm:

@Topic

I somehow have trouble believing that some ill equipped pirates would take on a navy frigate.
But it sounds much better than: Frigate opened fire without warning and sent the bastards to hell.

I considered the oil spill in my thoughts first. Get ready for it. Get your oil recovery ships ready, have the booms out to surround the ship. Start taking target practice. Remember, safety first Seriously, if we attack the ship, oil is spilled. If we try a commando raid, they will spill the oil themselves. We are damned if we do and damned if we don't. Blast it out of the water. Just a calling card for the next set of pirates doing the same thing.

[LobsterBoy]

Perhaps if the coast of Somalia is ruined by an ecological disaster the pirates won't be so popular anymore. :hmm:

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by LobsterBoy

Perhaps if the coast of Somalia is ruined by an ecological disaster the pirates won't be so popular anymore. :hmm:

Cmon you know better than that. The pirates would not recieve the blame the prosecuting partys would. Thats the way things work these days.

[DeepIron]

Originally Posted by LobsterBoy

Perhaps if the coast of Somalia is ruined by an ecological disaster the pirates won't be so popular anymore. :hmm:

Eh? One could argue that Somalia is already a disaster... That's one reason they have pirates...

[fatty]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

This would just cause a catastrophic oil spill that would affect thousands of people (not to mention animals). I don't know if that's a great idea.:hmm:

Yep. The environmental catastrophe would put a lot of Somali fishermen out of business and feed them right into the trade of piracy. I'm sure also that Vela Int'l would have something to say about sending their brand new $150 million ship to the bottom with the $100 million worth of oil. I bet maritime shipping insurance premiums would also balloon dramatically.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by fatty

Yep. The environmental catastrophe would put a lot of Somali fishermen out of business and feed them right into the trade of piracy. I'm sure also that Vela Int'l would have something to say about sending their brand new $150 million ship to the bottom with the $100 million worth of oil. I bet maritime shipping insurance premiums would also balloon dramatically.

What catastrophe? They should be deploying clean up ships and booms right now. Like I said, damned if we do damned if we don't. Ok, we blow up the ship. Flames, leaking oil. We are there for immediate response on clean up. If we do a commando raid, boom, the pirates blow it up instead. Flames, leaking oil. We are there to clean it up immediately. OK, we pay a ransom of $150 million...we still may not get the ship back in one piece. No guarantees in this situation. Furthermore, if we do get the ship back, we have done nothing but financed their next high seas adventure

[fatty]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

What catastrophe? They should be deploying clean up ships and booms right now. Like I said, damned if we do damned if we don't. Ok, we blow up the ship. Flames, leaking oil. We are there for immediate response on clean up. If we do a commando raid, boom, the pirates blow it up instead. Flames, leaking oil. We are there to clean it up immediately. OK, we pay a ransom of $150 million...we still may not get the ship back in one piece. No guarantees in this situation. Furthermore, if we do get the ship back, we have done nothing but financed their next high seas adventure

It cost $5 billion in 2008 dollars to clean up the mess from Exxon Valdez and she leaked only 40 million litres. Sirius Star is carrying 300 million litres of crude. Assuming there are even enough resources in the world to mobilize for mitigating that scale of disaster and you are willing to accept the costs, if you can get them close enough to the Star for an immediate response you might as well make a rescue attempt. I think the pirates would have a real struggle draining her tanks in the couple of minutes it would take for a SEAL team to secure the ship anyway.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by MothBalls

I still think all navies ROE on these guys should be kill on site.

Exactly.

Plus going after their support on land.

[MothBalls]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Plus going after their support on land.

How do you know who they are? Just shoot everyone with a parrot on their shoulder and an eyepatch?