attack convoy question

I'm goin' down · 10-28-08, 11:42 PM

Is there a fundamental strategy for attacking convoys? I am on Mission No. 8 in Careers in a GATO. My sonar station is disabled, and I use auto targeting. I locate ships from the map and with my hydrophones. But when I try to engage a convoy I am always spotted by destroyers who see my persiscope even at night in a rainstorm. I am supposed to use my stadimeter while submerged to wait for the convoy to get close, surface and shoot, and then run away.

The destroyers have my number and are KICKING my ass.

[To keep myself occupied between attacks I am watching the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre, a classic because you never see any violence, but you see bizarre characters, bodies hanging from meat hooks, body parts, etc., hear victims' screams when the chainsaw is fired up, and see the remains after they have they have been "butchered." But nowhere do you see the actual attack--you only imagine it! ]

bookworm_020 · 10-29-08, 02:48 AM

When you get you r first visuals submerge, set speed to two knots and rig for silent running. Try to wrok your way into the convoy by sneaking past the escorts, keeping the periscope down and only rase it for no more than 30 sec at any one time.

Kruger · 10-29-08, 03:43 AM

Or, try to remain undetected ahead of the convoy, submerge and come to about 3200 yards from it's path. Then launch the torps, a full salvo making sure to compensate the different distances from the targeted ships by the order in which you launch. IN this way, all torps will hit in approximately the same time.

This is not such a successful method, but in 90% of the cases you will remain undetected, and maybe get the chance to make a second attack.

Basically this is the night surface attack method used buy the Germans and also the Americans, but submerged in daylight.

I'm goin' down · 10-29-08, 04:48 AM

Kruger, I am not playing a mod version and I am not sure my torpedoes will travel that far. I usually fire at 1000 yds. I am in Gato vessel in Career. I am in midst of mission no. 8, and I just sunk a freighter at 1,000 yds using auto targeting. Do you think your method work in my situation for a 3,200 yds convoy attack?

Rockin Robbins · 10-29-08, 05:23 AM

Yes, your torpedoes will reach that far. If you go to the weapons screen you can see the torpedoes and what tubes they are in. Clicking on a torpedo will pop up an information window telling you its range.

My studies with stock torpedoes show that at slow speed fifty percent of the torpedoes prematurely stop between 3200 yards and 4000 yards. I had 100% reach 3200 yards, 50% reach 4000 yards. The rest kept running all the way out to 8000 yards and beyond.

Kruger · 10-29-08, 08:18 AM

Exactly. So, modded or unmodded, this is an easy way to attack convoys when not using manual targeting.

At 3200 yds (or more taking in consideration the fact that you will not attack at 90 degrees), any kind of torp should theoretically reach it's target in high speed setting. This setting is actually highly recommended, since your torps will be visible all across the convoy, especially in daylight. If you get some duds in your salvo, then your tactics will be screwed. The premature detonation will almost certainly determine all the ships to take evasive maneuvers, and your firing solution will go down to the saturday's water.

10-28-08, 11:42 PM	#1
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	attack convoy question Is there a fundamental strategy for attacking convoys? I am on Mission No. 8 in Careers in a GATO. My sonar station is disabled, and I use auto targeting. I locate ships from the map and with my hydrophones. But when I try to engage a convoy I am always spotted by destroyers who see my persiscope even at night in a rainstorm. I am supposed to use my stadimeter while submerged to wait for the convoy to get close, surface and shoot, and then run away. The destroyers have my number and are KICKING my ass. [To keep myself occupied between attacks I am watching the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre, a classic because you never see any violence, but you see bizarre characters, bodies hanging from meat hooks, body parts, etc., hear victims' screams when the chainsaw is fired up, and see the remains after they have they have been "butchered." But nowhere do you see the actual attack--you only imagine it! ]

10-29-08, 02:48 AM	#2
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	When you get you r first visuals submerge, set speed to two knots and rig for silent running. Try to wrok your way into the convoy by sneaking past the escorts, keeping the periscope down and only rase it for no more than 30 sec at any one time. __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

10-29-08, 04:48 AM	#4
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	convoy attack fundamentals -- ? for Kruger Kruger, I am not playing a mod version and I am not sure my torpedoes will travel that far. I usually fire at 1000 yds. I am in Gato vessel in Career. I am in midst of mission no. 8, and I just sunk a freighter at 1,000 yds using auto targeting. Do you think your method work in my situation for a 3,200 yds convoy attack?

10-29-08, 05:23 AM	#5
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Yes, your torpedoes will reach that far. If you go to the weapons screen you can see the torpedoes and what tubes they are in. Clicking on a torpedo will pop up an information window telling you its range. My studies with stock torpedoes show that at slow speed fifty percent of the torpedoes prematurely stop between 3200 yards and 4000 yards. I had 100% reach 3200 yards, 50% reach 4000 yards. The rest kept running all the way out to 8000 yards and beyond. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

10-29-08, 03:43 AM	#3
Kruger Commander Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 476 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Or, try to remain undetected ahead of the convoy, submerge and come to about 3200 yards from it's path. Then launch the torps, a full salvo making sure to compensate the different distances from the targeted ships by the order in which you launch. IN this way, all torps will hit in approximately the same time. This is not such a successful method, but in 90% of the cases you will remain undetected, and maybe get the chance to make a second attack. Basically this is the night surface attack method used buy the Germans and also the Americans, but submerged in daylight.

10-29-08, 08:18 AM	#6
Kruger Commander Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 476 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Exactly. So, modded or unmodded, this is an easy way to attack convoys when not using manual targeting. At 3200 yds (or more taking in consideration the fact that you will not attack at 90 degrees), any kind of torp should theoretically reach it's target in high speed setting. This setting is actually highly recommended, since your torps will be visible all across the convoy, especially in daylight. If you get some duds in your salvo, then your tactics will be screwed. The premature detonation will almost certainly determine all the ships to take evasive maneuvers, and your firing solution will go down to the saturday's water.