Slam Obama (merged)

[SUBMAN1]

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http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas...t-connections/

An excerpt:

Campaign workers for Senator and presidential candidate Barack Obama are under fire for displaying a flag featuring communist hero Che Guevara. But Obama has his own controversial socialist connections. He is, in fact, an associate of a Chicago-based Marxist group with access to millions of labor union dollars and connections to expert political consultants, including a convicted swindler.

Obama's socialist backing goes back at least to 1996, when he received the endorsement of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) for an Illinois state senate seat. Later, the Chicago DSA newsletter reported that Obama, as a state senator, showed up to eulogize Saul Mendelson, one of the "champions" of "Chicago's democratic left" and a long-time socialist activist. Obama's stint as a "community organizer" in Chicago has gotten some attention, but his relationship with the DSA socialists, who groomed and backed him, has been generally ignored....

[SUBMAN1]

Since we are on the subject!

-S

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/

Obama’s Communist Mentor

In his biography of Barack Obama, David Mendell writes about Obama's life as a "secret smoker" and how he "went to great lengths to conceal the habit." But what about Obama's secret political life? It turns out that Obama's childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist.

In his books, Obama admits attending "socialist conferences" and coming into contact with Marxist literature. But he ridicules the charge of being a "hard-core academic Marxist," which was made by his colorful and outspoken 2004 U.S. Senate opponent, Republican Alan Keyes....

[SUBMAN1]

McCain is not much better!

-S

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/mccain...ocialist-road/

McCain Follows Obama Down Socialist Road


AIM Column | By Cliff Kincaid | October 8, 2008


It is terrifying to see our financial system crumbling because of corruption on Wall Street, aided and abetted by government policies of too much federal spending, debt, and intervention in the economy. But it is also troubling to see our economic system of free enterprise slipping away as the candidates of both major political parties propose more federal intervention, spending and debt as solutions to these problems. Our media have an obligation to inform the American people that we are moving into a full-blown socialist economy.

At this point, with the financial crisis continuing to grow, isn’t it apparent that the “bailout” plan was in no real sense a “rescue,” as both the liberal and conservative media were calling it? ...

[XabbaRus]

And what? Why is it that as soon as someone displays any sort of left leanings, they are branded a socialist or communist and that is seen as bad. So I guess Europe must be bad, as it is essentially social democratic.

Subman you really are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

[Skybird]

The headline is misleading for the intended purpose, it must be "That Guy's International COMMUNIST Connections". My name is Sky McBird, and I approved this message.

[mrbeast]

..........and the Subman propaganda campaign rolls on..........yawn.....

[Hylander_1314]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

And what? Why is it that as soon as someone displays any sort of left leanings, they are branded a socialist or communist and that is seen as bad. So I guess Europe must be bad, as it is essentially social democratic.

Subman you really are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

That may well be what Europe is or is based on, but the United States of America is supposed to be based on the Rule of Law (fudimently different), that no man or entity of man is suppose to be above. That is why it is a Republic. Read the Feseralist Papers, the Anti-Federalist Papers, and Common Sense. That is what we're supposed to have, but men are corruptable.

So if a nation is based on the Rule of Law, Individual Liberty, and the Right to own Property, how can Socialism, or Communism coexist? Since they are the opposite of it. And while we're at it, Fascism isn't that much different as it applies the same principle government rule.

But what gets me is how Communism/Socialism is called the far left, and Fascism is called the far Right. To be more accurate as they are all totalitarian in nature, they should all be on one side of the scale, not opposites. The other side is Liberty. But the US of A is not so far as to say anarchy, as it is tempered by laws. These are set in the Constution and Bill of Rights.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...59166933078950

Whoa hold on now. Being a socialist is no longer a label you can apply exclusively to the left after Comrade Bush sent 700+ billion to Wallstreet. The right has to come up with a new smear after Comrade Bush's "bailout".

I never let the right get away with this issue. You all susidize people like cattle and dairy farmers and call the left communists when they want to sudsidize the healthcare to clean that same junk out of people's arteries.

Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

That may well be what Europe is or is based on, but the United States of America is supposed to be based on the Rule of Law (fudimently different), that no man or entity of man is suppose to be above.

This is meaningless when they can just go set aside or rewrite laws in a matter of 2 days. This has happened on a weekly basis under the Bush regime. Patriot Act, Wallstreet bailouts, wiretaps, etc.

Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

That may well be what Europe is or is based on, but the United States of America is supposed to be based on the Rule of Law (fudimently different), that no man or entity of man is suppose to be above. That is why it is a Republic. Read the Feseralist Papers, the Anti-Federalist Papers, and Common Sense. That is what we're supposed to have, but men are corruptable.
So if a nation is based on the Rule of Law, Individual Liberty, and the Right to own Property, how can Socialism, or Communism coexist? Since they are the opposite of it. And while we're at it, Fascism isn't that much different as it applies the same principle government rule.

But what gets me is how Communism/Socialism is called the far left, and Fascism is called the far Right. To be more accurate as they are all totalitarian in nature, they should all be on one side of the scale, not opposites. The other side is Liberty. But the US of A is not so far as to say anarchy, as it is tempered by laws. These are set in the Constution and Bill of Rights.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...59166933078950

You know, I was actually planning on answering to this post. But the more I read it, the more illogical and uneducated it becomes, to the point that I have no idea where to start anymore. I'd probably had to explain the differences between communism, socialism, capitalism, social capitalism, law in general, what constitutes a republic..basicly every term you threw in and mixed up here, first.

Seriously, go get a good book about different ideologies and what defines them. Your post more or less reads like a guy that watched too much Fox News without bothering to ever read up on the terms used there.

[Sea Demon]

Video speaks for itself. Obama in his own words.

http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2008/0...otect-america/

[Frame57]

I learned a long time ago that the schoolyard bully never respected weakness. The only thing to answer the bully with was superior strength and a good old fashioned ass whoopin.

[SUBMAN1]

- He represents the end of America!

-S

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

- He represents the end of America!

-S

Um..

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Um..

Uhh, if you didn't want to vote for McCain after watching that, you must lack any brain cells. McCain is showing that he himself is respectable by his words. Obama however has no respect for anyone. You must be too young to be able to read properly into what you just posted.

-S

PS. This post says it all:

agamenon1963 (1 minute ago) Reply

I was undecided,now i know im gonna vote Mccain