13 Patrol Jinx?

Seminole · 09-22-08, 08:59 AM

Is there some kind of jinx associated with patrol #13?

I sailed out of Brisbane just like the 12 previous patrols headed north to the hunting grounds.

The first air patrol I encountered I dived as usual without the plane appearing to have spotted me. I stayed under until dark and started to surface, When I did the whole world exploded. All diesels and electric engines out. Both prop shafts destroyed.Batteries destroyed. Multiple other damages. I thought .. well my goose is cooked for sure this time.

I spent the rest of the night with the damage control team hard at it. Much to my surprize...With the aid of the special mechanical ability crewman everything was repaired good as new..no hull damage. Off and running again back up to 100%.

Next time I dived the exact same thing again. Except this time the deckgun and AA guns wouldn't repair back to 100% though everything else did.

Dropped off supplies in New Guinea and ran across a 1500 ton costal and sank him. Headed for Rabual. Arrived without incident then crash dived to avoid aircraft.

This time I dd not receive any damage when I surfaced but the compressed air had fallen to below 25 % and would not replenish on the surface..even though..the damage screen showed no damage to the compressor at all.

I figured at this point discression is the better part of valor and headed to Brisbane and ended the patrol. So far #14 has not been a repeat of 13....knock wood....

So..any thoughts on what was happening on patrol #13? Every time I had dived, surfaced and received damage I was in the open ocean with at least a 1000 feet below the keel. Rules out hitting bottom, mines, and nets. None of the airplanes seemed to have detected me and I dived with plenty of time to spare. What was going on with the compressed air? The only thing I could think of was that the enemy had developed and deployed some superior type of ariel anti-sub weapon..Time was Oct 1943. Seems unlikey for a total explanation though....:hmm: ..Seems also highly improbable that I could have collied with a fishing vessel when I surfaced...oce maybe..twice..I doubt it.

It hard enough most of the time to have to fight the Japanese without having to fight gremlins too..

..at least with the Japs you know what to expect.

SteamWake · 09-22-08, 09:12 AM

Bad luck I assume, although Ive never reached patrol #13. Usually Im either dead or retired by that point.

As to the sudden mysterious damage either you found a mine, an un noticed aircraft, or shore batteries spotted you. Although you did state you were in the middle of no where. Did you do any saves / reloads during this patrol? If you save a game with prior damage, every time you load that game the damage gets announced all over again

The Co2 thing is a known bug. A save and reload should fix it. By the way the air compressor has nothing to do with that. Its a ventilation system which is not really modelled.

Dont really know... good luck on your next... Maybe its time to consider retirement

Seminole · 09-23-08, 07:28 AM

CO2 bug??? I didn't mention any problems with CO2 levels...

It was a compressed air problem. (in fact,this is the first time I've ever encountered a compressed air supply issue) Compressed air dropped to 25 % and would not replenish....even though the compressor was not damaged....not even after the boat was surfaced. You see when a submarine is surfaced, that is the time to refill the compression tanks as no or very little compressed air is being used on the surface and unlimited air supply is available for compressing.

As far as shore batteies , nets, random mines...these could not be the problem in the open sea, far from any land mass.

It wasn't a saved game problem either. Even though I did a couple of saves as I always do for a saftey margin...this patrol was definitely a one gaming session patrol. No saves reloaded. Plus too ,as pointed out damage can be reloaded but I would have to assume that repaired damage is equally reloaded as repaired damage.

If this had been a one time event It could be easily dismissed. since it happened twice and led to unexplainable consequences...it becomes another matter. How can one defend against a danger that can't be defined?

I'm playing patrol 14 today. If the problem does not repeat itself then my hunch of a 13th patrol jinx encoded in the gameplay is as good as any. If it does them a deeper investigation is in order I would say.

SteamWake · 09-23-08, 07:47 AM

Sorry I guess I skimmed the op to quickly when I read "It wouldent replenish" I just assumed it was Co2

I know there used to be a 'mysterious damage' bug but thought that had been ironed out.

Again Ive never made it to 13 patrols in one carrer so I cant compare notes. Maybe Ill do 12 quick ones just to test. :hmm:

Seminole · 09-23-08, 08:30 AM

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'mysterious damage' bug

Now there is something I never heard of before....now I have a hard target....thanks for the tip.

SteamWake · 09-23-08, 08:48 AM

Cant remember wether it was SH3 or 4 but I believe it was 4, usually after loading a save game where the save was submerged.

09-23-08, 07:28 AM	#3
Seminole Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,012 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	CO2 bug??? I didn't mention any problems with CO2 levels... It was a compressed air problem. (in fact,this is the first time I've ever encountered a compressed air supply issue) Compressed air dropped to 25 % and would not replenish....even though the compressor was not damaged....not even after the boat was surfaced. You see when a submarine is surfaced, that is the time to refill the compression tanks as no or very little compressed air is being used on the surface and unlimited air supply is available for compressing. As far as shore batteies , nets, random mines...these could not be the problem in the open sea, far from any land mass. It wasn't a saved game problem either. Even though I did a couple of saves as I always do for a saftey margin...this patrol was definitely a one gaming session patrol. No saves reloaded. Plus too ,as pointed out damage can be reloaded but I would have to assume that repaired damage is equally reloaded as repaired damage. If this had been a one time event It could be easily dismissed. since it happened twice and led to unexplainable consequences...it becomes another matter. How can one defend against a danger that can't be defined? I'm playing patrol 14 today. If the problem does not repeat itself then my hunch of a 13th patrol jinx encoded in the gameplay is as good as any. If it does them a deeper investigation is in order I would say. __________________

09-22-08, 08:59 AM	#1
Seminole Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,012 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	13 Patrol Jinx? Is there some kind of jinx associated with patrol #13? I sailed out of Brisbane just like the 12 previous patrols headed north to the hunting grounds. The first air patrol I encountered I dived as usual without the plane appearing to have spotted me. I stayed under until dark and started to surface, When I did the whole world exploded. All diesels and electric engines out. Both prop shafts destroyed.Batteries destroyed. Multiple other damages. I thought .. well my goose is cooked for sure this time. I spent the rest of the night with the damage control team hard at it. Much to my surprize...With the aid of the special mechanical ability crewman everything was repaired good as new..no hull damage. Off and running again back up to 100%. Next time I dived the exact same thing again. Except this time the deckgun and AA guns wouldn't repair back to 100% though everything else did. Dropped off supplies in New Guinea and ran across a 1500 ton costal and sank him. Headed for Rabual. Arrived without incident then crash dived to avoid aircraft. This time I dd not receive any damage when I surfaced but the compressed air had fallen to below 25 % and would not replenish on the surface..even though..the damage screen showed no damage to the compressor at all. I figured at this point discression is the better part of valor and headed to Brisbane and ended the patrol. So far #14 has not been a repeat of 13....knock wood.... So..any thoughts on what was happening on patrol #13? Every time I had dived, surfaced and received damage I was in the open ocean with at least a 1000 feet below the keel. Rules out hitting bottom, mines, and nets. None of the airplanes seemed to have detected me and I dived with plenty of time to spare. What was going on with the compressed air? The only thing I could think of was that the enemy had developed and deployed some superior type of ariel anti-sub weapon..Time was Oct 1943. Seems unlikey for a total explanation though....:hmm: ..Seems also highly improbable that I could have collied with a fishing vessel when I surfaced...oce maybe..twice..I doubt it. It hard enough most of the time to have to fight the Japanese without having to fight gremlins too....at least with the Japs you know what to expect. __________________

09-22-08, 09:12 AM	#2
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Bad luck I assume, although Ive never reached patrol #13. Usually Im either dead or retired by that point. As to the sudden mysterious damage either you found a mine, an un noticed aircraft, or shore batteries spotted you. Although you did state you were in the middle of no where. Did you do any saves / reloads during this patrol? If you save a game with prior damage, every time you load that game the damage gets announced all over again The Co2 thing is a known bug. A save and reload should fix it. By the way the air compressor has nothing to do with that. Its a ventilation system which is not really modelled. Dont really know... good luck on your next... Maybe its time to consider retirement

09-23-08, 07:47 AM	#4
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Sorry I guess I skimmed the op to quickly when I read "It wouldent replenish" I just assumed it was Co2 I know there used to be a 'mysterious damage' bug but thought that had been ironed out. Again Ive never made it to 13 patrols in one carrer so I cant compare notes. Maybe Ill do 12 quick ones just to test. :hmm:

09-23-08, 08:48 AM	#6
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Cant remember wether it was SH3 or 4 but I believe it was 4, usually after loading a save game where the save was submerged.