Consensual sex

[Von Tonner]

Our constitutional court is to hear argument today that the age of same-sex sexual relations be brought down from 19 years of age to 16 years of age which is the present legal age limit for hetrosexual sexual relations.

This has been brought about by a court of appeal in which a 20 year old male had a sexual relationship with an 18 year old male and was charged with rape and convicted.

I can see the logic behind the higher age limit and personally, I would argue it be higher - but what is it in other countries?

[antikristuseke]

Here the age of concent is 14, regardless of the sex of the people involved. Personaly I think 14 is a bit too low and 16 would be more apropriate.

[Skybird]

20...? That is excessive, I think. How is the tolerance and obedience regarding that law - does anyone know for sure...?

After all, it is just a human need.

In Germany, sex is allowed when you are 14, with a partner age 14 or 15 .

When you are 16, you are allowed to have sex with a partner of age 16, 17, 18 or older.

When you are 18 or older, you may have consensual sex with a 16 or 17 year old, but not with a 14 or 15 year old, or even younger ones.

The law knows restriction for sexual practices only with regard to animal protection laws (! ). Means: sex with animals is a no go over here. status of relationship (married, unmmarried) as well as form of consensual pratices are not adressed by laws. Abuse of children (age limits 14 and 16 as described above), non-consensual sex and non-consensual practices obviously are forbidden.

Originally Posted by Skybird

In Germany, sex is allowed when you are 14, with a partner age 14 or 15 .

When you are 16, you are allowed to have sex with a partner of age 16, 17, 18 or older.

When you are 18 or older, you may have consensual sex with a 16 or 17 year old, but not with a 14 or 15 year old, or even younger ones.

I have a hard time with the logic behind that. Sex with 14 to a 14, but not a 16 to a 14. Sheesh. You need a spreadsheet to keep track of all those details. :hmm:

Originally Posted by Skybird

The law knows restriction for sexual practices only with regard to animal protection laws (! ). Means: sex with animals is a no go over here.

But what if the animal consents? And what if it's with a rabid Tasmanian Devil? In August? :rotfl:

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Zayphod

I have a hard time with the logic behind that. Sex with 14 to a 14, but not a 16 to a 14. Sheesh. You need a spreadsheet to keep track of all those details. :hmm:

Not really, it makes even a lot of sense. In those years, social perceptions and sense of responsibility changes drastically and quickly with young humans. The olde rone is being held repsonsible for not abusing the social inexperience of the younger one. On the other hand, the difference between 14 and 16, and 16 and 18 may be both two years, but in psychological quality, there are differences between these ages. You cannot prevent nowadays that young ones of age 14 or 15 discover interest in each other, on the other hand you want to prevent that the older one takes unfair advnatge of the younger ones. Thus, the grading of ages.

Hope i made myself clear, I was fighting with terms and language a bit.

Originally Posted by Skybird

Not really, it makes even a lot of sense. In those years, social perceptions and sense of responsibility changes drastically and quickly with young humans. The olde rone is being held repsonsible for not abusing the social inexperience of the younger one. On the other hand, the difference between 14 and 16, and 16 and 18 may be both two years, but in psychological quality, there are differences between these ages. You cannot prevent nowadays that young ones of age 14 or 15 discover interest in each other, on the other hand you want to prevent that the older one takes unfair advnatge of the younger ones. Thus, the grading of ages.

Hope i made myself clear, I was fighting with terms and language a bit.

No, I think you explained it pretty well. Just seems like a ton of if/and/or things thrown into the programming there, makes it a little confusing, but your explaining clears up the 'why' pretty well. Thanks.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Skybird

In Germany, sex is allowed when you are 14, with a partner age 14 or 15 .

When you are 16, you are allowed to have sex with a partner of age 16, 17, 18 or older.

When you are 18 or older, you may have consensual sex with a 16 or 17 year old, but not with a 14 or 15 year old, or even younger ones.

That seems to be a much more sensible way of defining the law than just one age statement.

[jpm1]

Since the relation is consensual i don't understand what justice comes to do out there . i can quote my personal experience my first time with a girl i was 13 she was 19 , now 21 years later i don't see in what this could have harmed me of any manner whatsoever , the only thing i can take out of it is something gratifying being to go out with a girl of this age is something gratifying . if it was here she would be in jail and maybe me too for me it's like you're saying there's an extraterrestrial invasion happening now on earth . we should apply the "Salomon's law" as i'm not absolutly sure concerning the age we should put let's say to be sure 14 years old but for me we could even go to 12 years old and then for lower years old cases study case by case maybe the good age could be the age a girl can give birth without risks

[Monica Lewinsky]

Originally Posted by jpm1

i can quote my personal experience my first time with a girl i was 13 she was 19 , now 21 years later i don't see in what this could have harmed me of any manner whatsoever

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[NealT]

I would prefer the cork myself...

:rotfl::rotfl:

[Wolfehunter]

Problem with laws is they will be broken. Problem with kid is they never lissen.
Problem with parent is how do you help you child understand conscequence?

Do you beat them?
Do you locked them?
Do you educate them?
Do you help?
So-on.

This is an issue between my wife an I. We both agree to have our daughter ready at the age just incase she wants to explore. I want my daughter to feel safe when she thinks shes ready and make the right decision when the oppertunity comes. We don't want her to go behind our backs and make a mistake and when all hell breaks loose she has no one to turn to. Worse case scenario I and my wife don't want to find her in a ditch dead.

Personally when those days come I will never get used to the idea of her exploring. But I rather her be save and ready so she can make the right choice.

Hard to saw what the end result will turn up but I hope for the better than the worse.

For laws... I never agree to them... They don't work for better or worse.

[Philipp_Thomsen]

Well... put the girl sitting on a chair: If her feet reaches the floor, than it's ok.

If not, cut down some inches of the chair's feets...

[seaniam81]

Here in canada we just raised our age of consent to 16, it used to be 14. So an 40 year old can have sex with a 16 year old. Of course it is frowned upon. However there is a loop hole that says a 14 year old can have sex with a person 5 years older. So basicly a 19 year old can have sex with a 14 year old and isn't breaking the law. But a 20 year old would be.

[Monica Lewinsky]

Originally Posted by Von Tonner

but what is it in other countries?

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[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by Monica Lewinsky

We prefer plain, everyday, unplanned ... SEX!

You mean like this?